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Message-ID: <1296750805.10797.87.camel@gandalf.stny.rr.com>
Date:	Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:33:25 -0500
From:	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>
To:	Jiri Olsa <jolsa@...hat.com>
Cc:	mingo@...e.hu, fweisbec@...il.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com
Subject: Re: [RFC 0/4] tracing,x86_64 - function/graph trace without
 mcount/-pg/framepointer

On Thu, 2011-02-03 at 16:42 +0100, Jiri Olsa wrote:
> hi,
> 
> I recently saw the direct jump probing made for kprobes
> and tried to use it inside the trace framework.
> 
> The global idea is patching the function entry with direct
> jump to the trace code, instead of using pregenerated gcc
> profile code.

Interesting, but ideally, it would be nice if gcc provided a better
"mcount" mechanism. One that calls mcount (or whatever new name it would
have) before it does anything with the stack.

> 
> I started this just to see if it would be even possible
> to hook with new probing to the current trace code. It
> appears it's not that bad. I was able to run function
> and function_graph trace on x86_64.
> 
> For details on direct jumps probe, please check:
> http://www.linuxinsight.com/ols2007-djprobe-kernel-probing-with-the-smallest-overhead.html
> 
> 
> I realize using this way to hook the functions has some
> drawbacks, from what I can see it's roughly:
> - no all functions could be patched

What's the reason for not all functions?

> - need to find a way to say which function is safe to patch
> - memory consumption for detour buffers and symbol records
> 
> but seems there're some advantages as well:
> - trace code could be in a module

What makes this allow module code?

ftrace could do that now, but it would require a separate handler. I
would need to disable preemption before calling the module code function
handler.

> - no profiling code is needed
> - framepointer can be disabled (framepointer is needed for
>   generating profile code)

Again ideally, gcc should fix this.

-- Steve


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