linux-kernel - Re: cfq-iosched preempt issues

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Message-ID: <1299113370.19589.71.camel@sli10-conroe>
Date:	Thu, 03 Mar 2011 08:49:30 +0800
From:	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@...el.com>
To:	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>
Cc:	"jaxboe@...ionio.com" <jaxboe@...ionio.com>,
	"jmoyer@...hat.com" <jmoyer@...hat.com>,
	"czoccolo@...il.com" <czoccolo@...il.com>,
	"guijianfeng@...fujitsu.com" <guijianfeng@...fujitsu.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: cfq-iosched preempt issues

On Thu, 2011-03-03 at 04:21 +0800, Vivek Goyal wrote:
> On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 08:43:41PM +0800, Shaohua Li wrote:
> > queue preemption is good for some workloads and not for others. With commit
> > f8ae6e3eb825, the impact is amplified. I currently have two issues with it:
> > 1. In a multi-threaded workload, each thread runs a random read/write (for
> > example, mmap write) with iodepth 1. I found the queue depth gets smaller
> > with commit f8ae6e3eb825. The reason is write gets preempted, so more threads
> > are waitting for write, and on the other hand, there are less threads doing
> > read. This will make the queue depth small, so performance drops a little.
> > So in this case, speed up write can speed up read too, but we can't detect
> > it.
> > 2. cfq_may_dispatch doesn't limit queue depth if the queue is the sole queue.
> > What about if there are two queues, one sync and one async? If the sync queue's
> > think time is small, we can treat it as the sole queue, because the sync queue
> > will preempt async queue, so we don't need care about the async queue's latency.
> > The issue exists before, but f8ae6e3eb825 amplifies it. Below is a patch for it.
> > 
> > Any idea?
> 
> CFQ is already very complicated, lets try to keep it simple. Because it
> is complicated, making it hierarchical for cgroup becomes even harder.
> 
> IIUC, you are saying that cfqd->busy_queues check is not sufficient as
> it takes async queues also in account.
> 
> So we can keep another count say, cfqd->busy_sync_queues and if there
> are no busy_sync_queues, allow unlimited depth and that should be
> a really simple few lines change.
sure, this is ok too.

> But lets do it only if you have a real life workload. Similiarly we can
> worry about RT case when there is a real workload behind it.
aiostress is the workload. but I haven't real workload for the RT case.

Thanks,
Shaohua

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