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Date:	Fri, 04 Mar 2011 21:45:15 -0500
From:	Mark Lord <kernel@...savvy.com>
To:	Scott James Remnant <scott@...split.com>
CC:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ken Sumrall <ksumrall@...roid.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>,
	Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>,
	Dave Young <hidave.darkstar@...il.com>,
	Jiri Slaby <jslaby@...e.cz>, James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Syscalls: reboot: Add options to the reboot syscall to
 remount filesystems ro

On 11-03-03 09:55 PM, Scott James Remnant wrote:
>
> Oddly enough I don't see any bugs filed by you about startup issues?
> Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not saying Ubuntu is perfect here - but
> I'm not aware of any races that are Upstart's fault. If there are,
> please file bugs! How else am I to fix them if I don't know about
> them?


Oddly enough, I used to file bugs quite diligently against distros.
Not one of them was ever investigated or fixed.

Instead, I would get an automated email with each subsequent re-release
of the buggy software, inviting me to further waste my time by resubmitting
the bug report should it still be present.

So.. I simply don't bother now.

And upstart is used for shutdown of at least some services on Ubuntu.
I just wish they'd THINK about sequences.. like umounting NFS
before killing the network devices, or stopping mythbackend
before killing mysql etc..

If I could figure out how to fix their .conf files, I would.

Cheers
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