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Message-ID: <4D7534D6.7020000@kernel.dk>
Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2011 20:41:10 +0100
From: Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>
To: Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@...hat.com>
CC: Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, Mike Snitzer <snitzer@...il.com>,
Jan Beulich <JBeulich@...ell.com>,
"David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-ide@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2.6.38-rc5 2/2] block: blk-flush shouldn't call directly
into q->request_fn() __blk_run_queue()
On 2011-03-07 20:39, Jeff Moyer wrote:
> Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk> writes:
>
>> On 2011-03-07 20:33, Jeff Moyer wrote:
>>> Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> Hello, Jens.
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Mar 02, 2011 at 08:46:46AM -0500, Jens Axboe wrote:
>>>>>> Right, thanks. Jens, after you apply the two fixes for 2.6.38, I can
>>>>>> create a merge branch for for-2.6.39/core which you can pull. Would
>>>>>> that work for you?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, that would be great. I'm applying them now.
>>>>
>>>> Okay, please pull from the following branch to receive the merge
>>>> between linux-2.6-block:for-linus and :for-2.6.39/core.
>>>>
>>>> git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tj/misc.git block-for-2.6.39-core
>>>>
>>>> HEAD is e83a46bbb1d4c03defd733a64b727632a40059ad but git.korg seems a
>>>> bit slow to sync, so if you don't see the commit there, please pull
>>>> from master.korg.
>>>>
>>>> ssh://master.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/tj/misc.git block-for-2.6.39-core
>>>>
>>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> I know I'm coming to the party late (and maybe wrong), but I've got some
>>> questions here.
>>>
>>> Tejun, you introduced a commit to the ide driver that made it block in
>>> its request function. As far as I know, that's not allowed. For scsi,
>>> at least, it has always allowed calling back into the request function
>>> from the completion handler, and I think this is actully the common case
>>> (not some corner case).
>>>
>>> So, why doesn't the ide driver see calls back into its request function
>>> from the completion handler? It's clear that it calls blk_end_request
>>> from ide_end_rq, which can definitely call __blk_run_queue. In other
>>> words, why is it that the flush requests are triggerring this problem
>>> while normal I/O isn't?
>>>
>>> I think the real issue may just be that the ide driver is blocking in
>>> its request function. What have I missed?
>>
>> So the only case where the request_fn is called and you cannot block, is
>> if you call it from your completion function. Any other invocation
>> should be from process context. As long as you remember to drop the
>> queue lock and re-enable interrupts, it should work. It's not great
>> style and I would not recommend it for a performance environment, but it
>> should work.
>
> So are you agreeing with me or disagreeing? ;-) It sounds to me like
> you're saying that the ide driver should be able to cope with being
> called from softirq context.
I'm just stating how it should work :-)
But yes, it sounds like IDE is violating this rule and that's why it was
broken. Even with that, having explicit control of the queue running
does make sense.
--
Jens Axboe
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