linux-kernel - Re: [Qualcomm PM8921 MFD v2 2/6] mfd: pm8xxx: Add irq support

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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1103112100240.2787@localhost6.localdomain6>
Date:	Fri, 11 Mar 2011 21:12:13 +0100 (CET)
From:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
To:	Mark Brown <broonie@...nsource.wolfsonmicro.com>
cc:	Abhijeet Dharmapurikar <adharmap@...eaurora.org>,
	davidb@...eaurora.org, "David S. Miller" <davem@...emloft.net>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Bryan Huntsman <bryanh@...eaurora.org>,
	Daniel Walker <dwalker@...o99.com>,
	David Collins <collinsd@...eaurora.org>,
	Grant Likely <grant.likely@...retlab.ca>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>,
	Joe Perches <joe@...ches.com>,
	Russell King <linux@....linux.org.uk>,
	Samuel Ortiz <sameo@...ux.intel.com>,
	Stepan Moskovchenko <stepanm@...eaurora.org>,
	Linus Walleij <linus.walleij@...rricsson.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
	linux-arm-msm@...r.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qualcomm PM8921 MFD v2 2/6] mfd: pm8xxx: Add irq support

On Fri, 11 Mar 2011, Mark Brown wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 08:43:08PM +0100, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> 
> > Sigh, why insist people on working around core code instead of talking
> > to the responsible maintainers about their problem in the first place?
> 
> I don't know if it's the case here but with a lot of the people I speak
> to it's because they're used to working on proprietary OSs where there's
> no possibility of fixing the core and they haven't yet realised that
> this is a possibility.

Good point. If I only knew a way to get this message to those folks
once and forever.

There are several good reasons to avoid working around core code:

 - It's usually simpler and faster as the core code has all the
   necessary information. So that's even an argument which managers
   might understand.

 - Such workarounds, when not caught, tend to spread themself
   magically because driver writers checkout the existing code of
   similar devices and copy/paste/modify^Wuglify them over and over.

 - In the worst case such workarounds make the core maintainence
   harder and in some cases impossible, because they silently imply
   semantics on the core w/o the core maintainer knowing about them.

I'm going to give a talk about that at the collab summit :)

Thanks,

	tglx

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