linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH v2 2.6.38-rc8-tip 0/20] 0: Inode based uprobes

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Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1103152038280.2787@localhost6.localdomain6>
Date:	Tue, 15 Mar 2011 20:43:01 +0100 (CET)
From:	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>
To:	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>
cc:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@...ibm.com>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@...k.frob.com>,
	SystemTap <systemtap@...rces.redhat.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2.6.38-rc8-tip 0/20] 0: Inode based uprobes

On Tue, 15 Mar 2011, Andi Kleen wrote:
> > > How do you envisage these features actually get used?  For example,
> > > will gdb be modified?  Will other debuggers be modified or written?
> > 
> > How about answering this question first _BEFORE_ advertising
> > systemtap?
> 
> I thought this was obvious.  systemtap is essentially a script driven 
> debugger. 

Oh thanks for the clarification. I always wondered why a computer
would need a tap.

And it does not matter at all whether systemtap can use this or
not. If the main debuggers used like gdb are not going to use it then
it's a complete waste. We don't need another debugging interface just
for a single esoteric use case.

Thanks,

	tglx


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