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Message-ID: <20110328094820.GC5693@tiehlicka.suse.cz>
Date:	Mon, 28 Mar 2011 11:48:20 +0200
From:	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>
To:	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>
Cc:	Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@....nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] memcg: update documentation to describe usage_in_bytes

On Mon 28-03-11 18:11:27, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> On Mon, 28 Mar 2011 09:43:42 +0200
> Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz> wrote:
> 
> > On Mon 28-03-11 13:25:50, Daisuke Nishimura wrote:
> > > From: Daisuke Nishimura <nishimura@....nes.nec.co.jp>
[...]
> > > +5.5 usage_in_bytes
> > > +
> > > +As described in 2.1, memory cgroup uses res_counter for tracking and limiting
> > > +the memory usage. memory.usage_in_bytes shows the current res_counter usage for
> > > +memory, and DOESN'T show a actual usage of RSS and Cache. It is usually bigger
> > > +than the actual usage for a performance improvement reason. 
> > 
> > Isn't an explicit mention about caching charges better?
> > 
> 
> It's difficult to distinguish which is spec. and which is implemnation details...

Sure. At least commit log should contain the implementation details IMO,
though.

> 
> My one here ;)
> ==
> 5.5 usage_in_bytes
> 
> For efficiency, as other kernel components, memory cgroup uses some optimization to
> avoid unnecessary cacheline false sharing. usage_in_bytes is affected by the
> method and doesn't show 'exact' value of usage, it's an fuzz value for efficient
> access. (Of course, when necessary, it's synchronized.)
> In usual, the value (RSS+CACHE) in memory.stat shows more exact value. IOW,

- In usual, the value (RSS+CACHE) in memory.stat shows more exact value. IOW,
+ (RSS+CACHE) value from memory.stat shows more exact value and should be used
+ by userspace. IOW,

?

> usage_in_bytes is less exact than memory.stat. The error will be larger on the larger
> hardwares which have many cpus and tasks.
> ==
> 
> Hmm ?

Looks much better.

Thanks
-- 
Michal Hocko
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