linux-kernel - Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [RFC PATCH V4 2/5] cpuidle: list based cpuidle driver registration and selection

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Message-id: <alpine.LFD.2.02.1103302222180.1920@x980>
Date:	Wed, 30 Mar 2011 22:25:36 -0400 (EDT)
From:	Len Brown <lenb@...nel.org>
To:	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>
Cc:	Trinabh Gupta <trinabh@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>, venki@...gle.com,
	ak@...ux.intel.com, suresh.b.siddha@...el.com,
	sfr@...b.auug.org.au, peterz@...radead.org,
	benh@...nel.crashing.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	xen-devel@...ts.xensource.com, arjan@...ux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [RFC PATCH V4 2/5] cpuidle: list based cpuidle
 driver registration and selection



thanks,
Len Brown, Intel Open Source Technology Center

On Fri, 25 Mar 2011, Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 25, 2011 at 03:05:36AM -0400, Len Brown wrote:
> > > I think there are other problems too, related to saving and restoring
> > > of pm_idle pointer. For example, cpuidle itself saves current value
> > > of pm_idle, flips it and then restores the saved value. There is
> > > no guarantee that the saved function still exists. APM does exact
> > > same thing (though it may not be used these days).
> > > 
> > > The problem also is that a number of architectures have copied the
> > > same design based on pm_idle; so its spreading.
> > 
> > pm_idle is a primitive design yes, but I think the issue
> > with pm_idle is a theoretical one, at least on x86;
> > as there isn't any other code scribbling on pm_idle
> > in practice.  So this is clean-up, rather than bug-fix work...
> > 
> > > > It isn't immediately clear to me that all of these options
> > > > need to be preserved.
> > > 
> > > So what do you suggest can be removed?
> > 
> > I sent a series of small patches yesterday to get the ball rolling...
> > https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/3/24/54
> > 
> > I think the xen thing can go away.
> 
> The xen thing being the setting of cpuidle to halt or the proposed
> patch?

I don't think Xen needs a cpuidle driver.
Xen just needs to tell the kernel to call HALT,
and I think we'll keep that around for the non-cpuidle case,
and for the idle periods before cpuidle initializes.

cheers,
Len Brown, Intel Open Source Technology Center

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