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Date:	Tue, 19 Apr 2011 11:31:53 +0200
From:	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
To:	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
Cc:	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Mel Gorman <mel@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie>,
	Itaru Kitayama <kitayama@...bb4u.ne.jp>,
	Trond Myklebust <Trond.Myklebust@...app.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Memory Management List <linux-mm@...ck.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/6] writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be
 a moving target

On Tue 19-04-11 15:20:40, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 03:02:47PM +0800, Dave Chinner wrote:
> > On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 11:00:05AM +0800, Wu Fengguang wrote:
> > > Dynamically compute the dirty expire timestamp at queue_io() time.
> > > 
> > > writeback_control.older_than_this used to be determined at entrance to
> > > the kupdate writeback work. This _static_ timestamp may go stale if the
> > > kupdate work runs on and on. The flusher may then stuck with some old
> > > busy inodes, never considering newly expired inodes thereafter.
> > > 
> > > This has two possible problems:
> > > 
> > > - It is unfair for a large dirty inode to delay (for a long time) the
> > >   writeback of small dirty inodes.
> > > 
> > > - As time goes by, the large and busy dirty inode may contain only
> > >   _freshly_ dirtied pages. Ignoring newly expired dirty inodes risks
> > >   delaying the expired dirty pages to the end of LRU lists, triggering
> > >   the evil pageout(). Nevertheless this patch merely addresses part
> > >   of the problem.
> > 
> > When wb_writeback() is called with for_kupdate set, it initialises
> > wbc->older_than_this appropriately outside the writeback loop.
> > queue_io() is called once per writeback_inodes_wb() call, which is
> > once per loop in wb_writeback. All your change does is re-initialise
> > older_than_this once per loop in wb_writeback, jus tin a different
> > and very non-obvious place.
> > 
> > So why didn't you just re-initialise it inside the loop in
> > wb_writeback() and leave all the other code alone?
> 
> It helps both readability and efficiency to make it a local var.
> 
> I have another patch to kill the wbc->older_than_this (and one more
> for wbc->more_io). They are delayed to avoid possible merge conflicts
> with the IO-less patchset.
> 
> But yeah, it seems reasonable to move the first chunk of the below
> patch to this one.
  I agree - killing of wbc.older_than_this would be a logical part of
this patch as well.

								Honza
> ---
> Subject: writeback: the kupdate expire timestamp should be a moving target
> Date: Wed Jul 21 20:32:30 CST 2010
> 
> Remove writeback_control.older_than_this which is no longer used.
> 
> [kitayama@...bb4u.ne.jp] fix btrfs and ext4 references
> 
> Acked-by: Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
> Acked-by: Mel Gorman <mel@....ul.ie>
> Signed-off-by: Itaru Kitayama <kitayama@...bb4u.ne.jp>
> Signed-off-by: Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
> ---
>  fs/btrfs/extent_io.c             |    2 --
>  fs/fs-writeback.c                |   13 -------------
>  include/linux/writeback.h        |    2 --
>  include/trace/events/writeback.h |    6 +-----
>  mm/backing-dev.c                 |    1 -
>  5 files changed, 1 insertion(+), 23 deletions(-)
> 
> --- linux-next.orig/fs/fs-writeback.c	2011-04-18 08:37:01.000000000 +0800
> +++ linux-next/fs/fs-writeback.c	2011-04-18 08:38:16.000000000 +0800
> @@ -681,30 +681,20 @@ static unsigned long writeback_chunk_siz
>   * Try to run once per dirty_writeback_interval.  But if a writeback event
>   * takes longer than a dirty_writeback_interval interval, then leave a
>   * one-second gap.
> - *
> - * older_than_this takes precedence over nr_to_write.  So we'll only write back
> - * all dirty pages if they are all attached to "old" mappings.
>   */
>  static long wb_writeback(struct bdi_writeback *wb,
>  			 struct wb_writeback_work *work)
>  {
>  	struct writeback_control wbc = {
>  		.sync_mode		= work->sync_mode,
> -		.older_than_this	= NULL,
>  		.for_kupdate		= work->for_kupdate,
>  		.for_background		= work->for_background,
>  		.range_cyclic		= work->range_cyclic,
>  	};
> -	unsigned long oldest_jif;
>  	long wrote = 0;
>  	long write_chunk;
>  	struct inode *inode;
>  
> -	if (wbc.for_kupdate) {
> -		wbc.older_than_this = &oldest_jif;
> -		oldest_jif = jiffies -
> -				msecs_to_jiffies(dirty_expire_interval * 10);
> -	}
>  	if (!wbc.range_cyclic) {
>  		wbc.range_start = 0;
>  		wbc.range_end = LLONG_MAX;
> @@ -1139,9 +1129,6 @@ EXPORT_SYMBOL(__mark_inode_dirty);
>   * Write out a superblock's list of dirty inodes.  A wait will be performed
>   * upon no inodes, all inodes or the final one, depending upon sync_mode.
>   *
> - * If older_than_this is non-NULL, then only write out inodes which
> - * had their first dirtying at a time earlier than *older_than_this.
> - *
>   * If `bdi' is non-zero then we're being asked to writeback a specific queue.
>   * This function assumes that the blockdev superblock's inodes are backed by
>   * a variety of queues, so all inodes are searched.  For other superblocks,
> --- linux-next.orig/include/linux/writeback.h	2011-04-18 08:36:59.000000000 +0800
> +++ linux-next/include/linux/writeback.h	2011-04-18 08:38:16.000000000 +0800
> @@ -66,8 +66,6 @@ enum writeback_sync_modes {
>   */
>  struct writeback_control {
>  	enum writeback_sync_modes sync_mode;
> -	unsigned long *older_than_this;	/* If !NULL, only write back inodes
> -					   older than this */
>  	unsigned long wb_start;         /* Time writeback_inodes_wb was
>  					   called. This is needed to avoid
>  					   extra jobs and livelock */
> --- linux-next.orig/include/trace/events/writeback.h	2011-04-18 08:36:59.000000000 +0800
> +++ linux-next/include/trace/events/writeback.h	2011-04-18 08:38:16.000000000 +0800
> @@ -115,7 +115,6 @@ DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS(wbc_class,
>  		__field(int, for_reclaim)
>  		__field(int, range_cyclic)
>  		__field(int, more_io)
> -		__field(unsigned long, older_than_this)
>  		__field(long, range_start)
>  		__field(long, range_end)
>  	),
> @@ -130,14 +129,12 @@ DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS(wbc_class,
>  		__entry->for_reclaim	= wbc->for_reclaim;
>  		__entry->range_cyclic	= wbc->range_cyclic;
>  		__entry->more_io	= wbc->more_io;
> -		__entry->older_than_this = wbc->older_than_this ?
> -						*wbc->older_than_this : 0;
>  		__entry->range_start	= (long)wbc->range_start;
>  		__entry->range_end	= (long)wbc->range_end;
>  	),
>  
>  	TP_printk("bdi %s: towrt=%ld skip=%ld mode=%d kupd=%d "
> -		"bgrd=%d reclm=%d cyclic=%d more=%d older=0x%lx "
> +		"bgrd=%d reclm=%d cyclic=%d more=%d "
>  		"start=0x%lx end=0x%lx",
>  		__entry->name,
>  		__entry->nr_to_write,
> @@ -148,7 +145,6 @@ DECLARE_EVENT_CLASS(wbc_class,
>  		__entry->for_reclaim,
>  		__entry->range_cyclic,
>  		__entry->more_io,
> -		__entry->older_than_this,
>  		__entry->range_start,
>  		__entry->range_end)
>  )
> --- linux-next.orig/mm/backing-dev.c	2011-04-18 08:36:59.000000000 +0800
> +++ linux-next/mm/backing-dev.c	2011-04-18 08:38:16.000000000 +0800
> @@ -263,7 +263,6 @@ static void bdi_flush_io(struct backing_
>  {
>  	struct writeback_control wbc = {
>  		.sync_mode		= WB_SYNC_NONE,
> -		.older_than_this	= NULL,
>  		.range_cyclic		= 1,
>  		.nr_to_write		= 1024,
>  	};
> --- linux-next.orig/fs/btrfs/extent_io.c	2011-04-18 08:36:59.000000000 +0800
> +++ linux-next/fs/btrfs/extent_io.c	2011-04-18 08:38:16.000000000 +0800
> @@ -2556,7 +2556,6 @@ int extent_write_full_page(struct extent
>  	};
>  	struct writeback_control wbc_writepages = {
>  		.sync_mode	= wbc->sync_mode,
> -		.older_than_this = NULL,
>  		.nr_to_write	= 64,
>  		.range_start	= page_offset(page) + PAGE_CACHE_SIZE,
>  		.range_end	= (loff_t)-1,
> @@ -2589,7 +2588,6 @@ int extent_write_locked_range(struct ext
>  	};
>  	struct writeback_control wbc_writepages = {
>  		.sync_mode	= mode,
> -		.older_than_this = NULL,
>  		.nr_to_write	= nr_pages * 2,
>  		.range_start	= start,
>  		.range_end	= end + 1,
-- 
Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>
SUSE Labs, CR
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