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Message-ID: <BANLkTi=5ON_ttuwFFhFObfoP8EBKPdFgAA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 17 May 2011 08:50:44 +0900
From: Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>
To: Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de>
Cc: James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senpartnership.com>,
KOSAKI Motohiro <kosaki.motohiro@...fujitsu.com>,
akpm@...ux-foundation.org, colin.king@...onical.com,
raghu.prabhu13@...il.com, jack@...e.cz, chris.mason@...cle.com,
cl@...ux.com, penberg@...nel.org, riel@...hat.com,
hannes@...xchg.org, linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org,
linux-mm@...ck.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] mm: vmscan: If kswapd has been running too long,
allow it to sleep
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 7:27 PM, Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de> wrote:
> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 05:58:59PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:45 PM, Mel Gorman <mgorman@...e.de> wrote:
>> > On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 02:04:00PM +0900, Minchan Kim wrote:
>> >> On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 1:21 PM, James Bottomley
>> >> <James.Bottomley@...senpartnership.com> wrote:
>> >> > On Sun, 2011-05-15 at 19:27 +0900, KOSAKI Motohiro wrote:
>> >> >> (2011/05/13 23:03), Mel Gorman wrote:
>> >> >> > Under constant allocation pressure, kswapd can be in the situation where
>> >> >> > sleeping_prematurely() will always return true even if kswapd has been
>> >> >> > running a long time. Check if kswapd needs to be scheduled.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > Signed-off-by: Mel Gorman<mgorman@...e.de>
>> >> >> > ---
>> >> >> > mm/vmscan.c | 4 ++++
>> >> >> > 1 files changed, 4 insertions(+), 0 deletions(-)
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
>> >> >> > index af24d1e..4d24828 100644
>> >> >> > --- a/mm/vmscan.c
>> >> >> > +++ b/mm/vmscan.c
>> >> >> > @@ -2251,6 +2251,10 @@ static bool sleeping_prematurely(pg_data_t *pgdat, int order, long remaining,
>> >> >> > unsigned long balanced = 0;
>> >> >> > bool all_zones_ok = true;
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > + /* If kswapd has been running too long, just sleep */
>> >> >> > + if (need_resched())
>> >> >> > + return false;
>> >> >> > +
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Hmm... I don't like this patch so much. because this code does
>> >> >>
>> >> >> - don't sleep if kswapd got context switch at shrink_inactive_list
>> >> >
>> >> > This isn't entirely true: need_resched() will be false, so we'll follow
>> >> > the normal path for determining whether to sleep or not, in effect
>> >> > leaving the current behaviour unchanged.
>> >> >
>> >> >> - sleep if kswapd didn't
>> >> >
>> >> > This also isn't entirely true: whether need_resched() is true at this
>> >> > point depends on a whole lot more that whether we did a context switch
>> >> > in shrink_inactive. It mostly depends on how long we've been running
>> >> > without giving up the CPU. Generally that will mean we've been round
>> >> > the shrinker loop hundreds to thousands of times without sleeping.
>> >> >
>> >> >> It seems to be semi random behavior.
>> >> >
>> >> > Well, we have to do something. Chris Mason first suspected the hang was
>> >> > a kswapd rescheduling problem a while ago. We tried putting
>> >> > cond_rescheds() in several places in the vmscan code, but to no avail.
>> >>
>> >> Is it a result of test with patch of Hannes(ie, !pgdat_balanced)?
>> >>
>> >> If it isn't, it would be nop regardless of putting cond_reshed at vmscan.c.
>> >> Because, although we complete zone balancing, kswapd doesn't sleep as
>> >> pgdat_balance returns wrong result. And at last VM calls
>> >> balance_pgdat. In this case, balance_pgdat returns without any work as
>> >> kswap couldn't find zones which have not enough free pages and goto
>> >> out. kswapd could repeat this work infinitely. So you don't have a
>> >> chance to call cond_resched.
>> >>
>> >> But if your test was with Hanne's patch, I am very curious how come
>> >> kswapd consumes CPU a lot.
>> >>
>> >> > The need_resched() in sleeping_prematurely() seems to be about the best
>> >> > option. The other option might be just to put a cond_resched() in
>> >> > kswapd_try_to_sleep(), but that will really have about the same effect.
>> >>
>> >> I don't oppose it but before that, I think we have to know why kswapd
>> >> consumes CPU a lot although we applied Hannes' patch.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Because it's still possible for processes to allocate pages at the same
>> > rate kswapd is freeing them leading to a situation where kswapd does not
>> > consider the zone balanced for prolonged periods of time.
>>
>> We have cond_resched in shrink_page_list, shrink_slab and balance_pgdat.
>> So I think kswapd can be scheduled out although it's scheduled in
>> after a short time as task scheduled also need page reclaim. Although
>> all task in system need reclaim, kswapd cpu 99% consumption is a
>> natural result, I think.
>> Do I miss something?
>>
>
> Lets see;
>
> shrink_page_list() only applies if inactive pages were isolated
> which in turn may not happen if all_unreclaimable is set in
> shrink_zones(). If for whatver reason, all_unreclaimable is
> set on all zones, we can miss calling cond_resched().
>
> shrink_slab only applies if we are reclaiming slab pages. If the first
> shrinker returns -1, we do not call cond_resched(). If that
> first shrinker is dcache and __GFP_FS is not set, direct
> reclaimers will not shrink at all. However, if there are
> enough of them running or if one of the other shrinkers
> is running for a very long time, kswapd could be starved
> acquiring the shrinker_rwsem and never reaching the
> cond_resched().
Don't we have to move cond_resched?
diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
index 292582c..633e761 100644
--- a/mm/vmscan.c
+++ b/mm/vmscan.c
@@ -231,8 +231,10 @@ unsigned long shrink_slab(struct shrink_control *shrink,
if (scanned == 0)
scanned = SWAP_CLUSTER_MAX;
- if (!down_read_trylock(&shrinker_rwsem))
- return 1; /* Assume we'll be able to shrink next time */
+ if (!down_read_trylock(&shrinker_rwsem)) {
+ ret = 1;
+ goto out; /* Assume we'll be able to shrink next time */
+ }
list_for_each_entry(shrinker, &shrinker_list, list) {
unsigned long long delta;
@@ -280,12 +282,14 @@ unsigned long shrink_slab(struct shrink_control *shrink,
count_vm_events(SLABS_SCANNED, this_scan);
total_scan -= this_scan;
- cond_resched();
}
shrinker->nr += total_scan;
+ cond_resched();
}
up_read(&shrinker_rwsem);
+out:
+ cond_resched();
return ret;
}
>
> balance_pgdat() only calls cond_resched if the zones are not
> balanced. For a high-order allocation that is balanced, it
> checks order-0 again. During that window, order-0 might have
> become unbalanced so it loops again for order-0 and returns
> that was reclaiming for order-0 to kswapd(). It can then find
> that a caller has rewoken kswapd for a high-order and re-enters
> balance_pgdat() without ever have called cond_resched().
If kswapd reclaims order-o followed by high order, it would have a
chance to call cond_resched in shrink_page_list. But if all zones are
all_unreclaimable is set, balance_pgdat could return any work. Okay.
It does make sense.
By your scenario, someone wakes up kswapd with higher order, again.
So re-enters balance_pgdat without ever have called cond_resched.
But if someone wakes up higher order again, we can't have a chance to
call kswapd_try_to_sleep. So your patch effect would be nop, too.
It would be better to put cond_resched after balance_pgdat?
diff --git a/mm/vmscan.c b/mm/vmscan.c
index 292582c..61c45d0 100644
--- a/mm/vmscan.c
+++ b/mm/vmscan.c
@@ -2753,6 +2753,7 @@ static int kswapd(void *p)
if (!ret) {
trace_mm_vmscan_kswapd_wake(pgdat->node_id, order);
order = balance_pgdat(pgdat, order, &classzone_idx);
+ cond_resched();
}
}
return 0;
>
> While it appears unlikely, there are bad conditions which can result
> in cond_resched() being avoided.
>
> --
> Mel Gorman
> SUSE Labs
>
--
Kind regards,
Minchan Kim
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