linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 03/10] ptrace: implement PTRACE

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Message-ID: <20110518111424.GX20624@htj.dyndns.org>
Date:	Wed, 18 May 2011 13:14:24 +0200
From:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
To:	Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@...glemail.com>
Cc:	oleg@...hat.com, jan.kratochvil@...hat.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, indan@....nu, bdonlan@...il.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 03/10] ptrace: implement PTRACE_SEIZE

Hello, Denys.

On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 12:44:58PM +0200, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
> > But as SEIZE introduces behavior differences throughout ptrace
> > operation,
> >
> > Similar issue with PTRACE_O_TRACESTOP.  It won't only enable TRACESTOP
> > it will change other behaviors too
> 
> All these differences revolve around making handling of stops
> and SIGCONT better. It seems fitting to the option name.
>
> PTRACE_SEIZE sets a flag somewhere "please convert
> group-stops into PTRACE_EVENT_STOPs".

I don't know.  It seems a bit too subtle.  The new behaviors are a lot
more pervasive than any controlled by PTRACE_O_ flags and there's the
problem of allowing its clearing.

> Since we have this API, why not use it for the very similar
> concept of modifying group-stops too?

Different scope.  Conflicting semantics (clearing).  API compatibility
as you pointed out.

> > I think it's actually beneficial to use a distinctively new
> > request.  It's not like it costs anything or we're short on request
> > number space.
> 
> "Entities must not be multiplied beyond necessity"?

Sure, but whether to have a flag or a request is trivial.  When one of
them has issues like above, I see a new request number go above the
necessity threshold.

Thanks.

-- 
tejun
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