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Date: Wed, 18 May 2011 17:02:02 +0200
From: Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@...glemail.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
Cc: Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>, jan.kratochvil@...hat.com,
linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
akpm@...ux-foundation.org, indan@....nu
Subject: Re: Ptrace documentation, draft #1
On Mon, May 16, 2011 at 5:31 PM, Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com> wrote:
> On 05/15, Denys Vlasenko wrote:
>>
>> 1.x Death under ptrace.
>>
>> When a (possibly multi-threaded) process receives a killing signal (a
>> signal set to SIG_DFL and whose default action is to kill the process),
>> all threads exit. Tracees report their death to the tracer(s). This is
>> not a ptrace-stop (because tracer can't query tracee status such as
>> register contents, cannot restart tracee etc) but the notification
>> about this event is delivered through waitpid API similarly to
>> ptrace-stop.
>
> Note: currently a killed PT_TRACE_EXIT tracee can stop and report
> PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT before it actually exits. I'd say this is wrong and
> should be fixed.
Yes, I assumed this is normal.
Or do you mean that *killed* tracee (that is, by signal) also stops there?
> Another problem: the tracee can silently "disappear" during exec,
> if it was the group leader and exec is called by its sub-thread.
> Unfortunately, this is not easy to fix. The new leader inherits
> the same pid. In fact, the old thread can "disappear", exactly
> because it changes its pid.
>
> IOW. If the old leader was traced - it disappears. If the new leader
> is traced, it continues to be traced but it changes its pid, so it
> is visible as the old leader to the tracer.
This should be so much fun for ptrace users :)
I am documenting this.
>> Tracer can kill a tracee with ptrace(PTRACE_KILL, pid, 0, 0).
>
> Oh, no. This is more or less equivalent to PTRACE_CONT(SIGKILL) except
> PTRACE_KILL doesn't return the error if the tracee is not stopped.
>
> I'd say: do not use PTRACE_KILL, never. If the tracer wants to kill
> the tracee - kill or tkill should be used.
Regardless. We need to tell users what to expect after they do PTRACE_KILL.
Should they expect that every tracee report WIFSIGNALED(status)
and WTERMSIG(status) = SIGKILL? Can they get stale, buffered waitpid results
before they get this last one?
>> When any thread executes exit_group syscall, every tracee reports its
>> death to its tracer.
>>
>> ??? Is it true that *every* thread reports death?
>
> Yes, if you mean do_wait() as above.
And will PTRACE_EVENT_EXIT happen for *every* tracee (which has it configured)?
>> Kernel delivers an extra SIGTRAP to tracee after execve syscall
>> returns. This is an ordinary signal (similar to one generated by kill
>> -TRAP), not a special kind of ptrace-stop. If PTRACE_O_TRACEEXEC option
>> is in effect, a PTRACE_EVENT_EXEC-stop is generated instead.
>>
>> ??? can this SIGTRAP be distinguished from "real" user-generated SIGTRAP
>> by looking at its siginfo?
>
> Afaics no. Well, except .si_pid shows that the signal was sent by the
> tracing process to itself.
What about si_code? Is it set to SI_KERNEL for this signal?
AFAIR userspace can't create signals with such si_code.
> I'd say it is better to assume nobody sends SIGTRAP to the tracee.
> Even if the tracer could filter out the "real" signals, SIGTRAP doesn't
> queue.
Yes, I understand that the race with real SIGTRAPs is not fixable.
I mostly look for a way for tracer to say "aha, this is that pesky
SIGTRAP from execve, ignore it". One way is to set PTRACE_O_TRACEEXEC.
Is GETSIGINFO another?
>> ??? Are syscalls interrupted by signals which are suppressed by tracer?
>> If yes, document it here
>
> Please reiterate, can't understand.
Let's say tracee is in nanosleep. Then some signal arrives,
but tracer decides to ignore it. In tracer:
waitpid: WIFSTOPPED, WSTOPSIG = some_sig <===
ptrace(PTRACE_CONT, pid, 0, 0) ===>
will this interrupt nanosleep in tracee?
>> Note that restarting ptrace commands issued in ptrace-stops other than
>> signal-delivery-stop do NOT inject a signal, even if sig is nonzero. No
>> error is reported either. This is a cause of confusion among ptrace
>> users.
>
> Yes. Except syscall entry/exit. But in this case SET_SIGINFO doesn't work
> to add more confusion ;)
I rewrote it like this:
Note that restarting ptrace commands issued in ptrace-stops other than
signal-delivery-stop is not guaranteed to inject a signal, even if sig
is nonzero.
No error is reported, nonzero sig may simply be ignored.
Ptrace users should not try to "create new signal" this way: use
tgkill(2) instead.
>> As of kernel 2.6.38, after tracer sees tracee ptrace-stop and until it
>> restarts or kills it, tracee will not run,
>
> Well, this is not exactly true. Initially the tracee sleeps in TASK_STOPPED
> and thus it can be woken by SIGCONT. But the first ptrace request changes
> turns this state into TASK_TRACED.
> This was already changed by the pending patches.
This is an extremely subtle point, and is not really a part of API "as
designed":
how tracer can know that it's a group-stop *without* performing GETSIGINFO?
And after it performed GETSIGINFO, it "destroyed" TASK_STOPPED...
so knowing that it *was* TASK_STOPPED, which *could have been* woken up
by SIGCONT does absolutely no good for the poor tracer, it's too late!
It looks insane.
I propose to not document it, as you guys plan to fix this thing for good.
>> If tracee was restarted by PTRACE_SYSCALL, tracee enters
>> syscall-enter-stop just prior to entering any syscall. If tracer
>> restarts it with PTRACE_SYSCALL, tracee enters syscall-exit-stop when
>> syscall is finished, or if it is interrupted by a signal. (That is,
>> signal-delivery-stop never happens between syscall-enter-stop and
>> syscall-exit-stop, it happens after syscall-exit-stop).
>
> This is true. But, just in case, please note that PTRACE_EVENT_EXEC
> or PTRACE_EVENT_{FORK,CLONE,etc} can be reported in between.
Aha, so PTRACE_EVENT-stops happen "within" the syscall?
Meaning, between syscall-enter-stop and syscall-exit-stop?
> But si_code = (event << 8) | SIGTRAP and depends on reported event.
Aha! I sort-of expected SI_KERNEL there...
>> ptrace(PTRACE_cmd, pid, 0, sig);
>> where cmd is CONT, DETACH, SYSCALL, SINGLESTEP, SYSEMU,
>> SYSEMU_SINGLESTEP. If tracee is in signal-delivery-stop, sig is the
>> signal to be injected. Otherwise, sig is ignored.
>
> There is another special case. If the tracee single-stepps into the
> signal handler, it reports SIGTRAP as if it recieved this SIGNAL.
> But ptrace(PTRACE, ..., sig) doesn't inject after that.
This is part of missing doc about PTRACE_SINGLESTEP.
>From what you are saying it looks like PTRACE_SINGLESTEP
implies PTRACE_SYSCALL behavior: "report syscall-stops".
>> As of 2.6.38, the following is believed to work correctly:
>>
>> - exit/death by signal is reported both to tracer and to real parent.
>
> First to the tracer. Once it does do_wait(), we notify the real parent.
> And of course, the real parent is not notified about the exiting threads.
>
> There is additional complication with the group-leader. If it is traced
> and exits, do_wait(WEXITED) doesn't work (until all threads exit) for
> the tracer. Should be changed, I think.
Updated this part.
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