linux-kernel - Re: [PATCH 1/3] mpt2sas: remove the use of writeq, since writeq is not atomic

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Message-ID: <1305783373.7481.44.camel@pasglop>
Date:	Thu, 19 May 2011 15:36:13 +1000
From:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
To:	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senPartnership.com>
Cc:	Hitoshi Mitake <h.mitake@...il.com>,
	"Moore, Eric" <Eric.Moore@....com>,
	Milton Miller <miltonm@....com>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@...nborg.org>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...hat.com>,
	"Desai, Kashyap" <Kashyap.Desai@....com>,
	"Prakash, Sathya" <Sathya.Prakash@....com>,
	Matthew Wilcox <matthew@....cx>,
	linux scsi dev <linux-scsi@...r.kernel.org>,
	"paulus@...ba.org" <paulus@...ba.org>,
	linux powerpc dev <linuxppc-dev@...ts.ozlabs.org>,
	linux pci <linux-pci@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	linux-arch <linux-arch@...r.kernel.org>,
	Roland Dreier <roland@...nel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/3] mpt2sas: remove the use of writeq, since writeq is
 not atomic

On Thu, 2011-05-19 at 08:46 +0400, James Bottomley wrote:
> This can't really be done generically.  There are several considerations
> to do with hardware requirements.  I can see some hw requiring a
> specific write order (I think this applies more to read order, though).

Right. Or there can be a need for a completely different access pattern
to do 32-bit, or maybe write only one half because both might have a
side effect etc etc etc ...

Also a global lock would be suboptimal vs. a per device lock burried in
the driver.

> The specific mpt2sas problem is that if we write a 64 bit register non
> atomically, we can't allow any interleaving writes for any other region
> on the chip, otherwise the HW will take the write as complete in the 64
> bit register and latch the wrong value.  The only way to achieve that
> given the semantics of writeq is a global static spinlock.
> 
> > How do you think about them? If you cannot agree with the above two
> > solutions, I'll agree with reverting them.
> 
> Having x86 roll its own never made any sense, so I think they need
> reverting anyway. 

Agreed.

>  This is a driver/platform bus problem not an
> architecture problem.  The assumption we can make is that the platform
> CPU can write atomically at its chip width.  We *may* be able to make
> the assumption that the bus controller can translate an atomic chip
> width transaction to a single atomic bus transaction; I think that
> assumption holds true for at least PCI and on the parisc legacy busses,
> so if we can agree on semantics, this should be a global define
> somewhere.  If there are problems with the bus assumption, we'll likely
> need some type of opt-in (or just not bother).

And we want a well defined #ifdef drivers test to know whether there's a
writeq/readq (just #define writeq/readq itself is fine even if it's an
inline function, we do that elsewhere) so they can have a fallback
scenario.

This is important as these can be used in very performance critical code
path.

Cheers,
Ben.

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