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Message-Id: <201105232005.56840.johannes.hirte@fem.tu-ilmenau.de>
Date:	Mon, 23 May 2011 20:05:55 +0200
From:	Johannes Hirte <johannes.hirte@....tu-ilmenau.de>
To:	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>
Cc:	Ulrich Keller <uhkeller@...glemail.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Thomas Sattler <tsattler@....de>
Subject: Re: iotop: khugepaged at 99.99% (2.6.38.3)

On Thursday 12 May 2011 16:03:52 Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hi Ulrich,
> 
> On Wed, May 11, 2011 at 10:53:18AM +0000, Ulrich Keller wrote:
> > I am seeing exactly the same symptoms on my Lenovo T60 Core2 duo, 3GB
> > RAM, running Arch Linux i686 with Kernel 2.6.38.6. When I've heavily
> > used Firefox for a while, or used R with high memory usage (>1 GB),
> > individual applications become unresponsive, new processes fail to start
> > and after a while the whole system freezes. When it happens, iotop shows
> > khugepaged and sometimes firefox at 99.99%.
> > 
> > I'd be happy to post information here when the problem occurs again.
> > Anything other than "cat /proc/zoneinfo"?
> 
> SYSRQ+T run multiple times during the hang and /proc/zoneinfo as well
> run multiple times during the hang is the best info we can have for
> now, /proc/zoneinfo is the most interesting as it will show us the
> values that the too_many_isolated loop is checking to decide if to
> continue looping. Even better would be a crash dump, but you may not
> have the setup for that.
> 
> The patch I posted likely fixes it, but it may not be the right fix. I
> don't really like that logic anyway but if that logic is not the
> problem and the stat accounting is not correct, clearly we can defer
> changing too_many_isolated and focus on the real problem first.
> 
> It may not be something new, it may have been exposed by the
> __GFP_NO_KSWAPD flag, kswapd is always immune from the
> too_many_isolated loop, so it keeps the VM rolling and would normally
> hide such problem if it ever happened before.  It might also be be
> something wrong with the THP altered statistics (counting 512 pages
> for each THP), in that case it would be THP specific, but I wonder why
> it's not easy to reproduce.
> 
> So you've 2 cores, and probably a SMP kernel right? Is it a preempt
> kernel (just in case it makes any difference.. I doubt)? i386 means
> it's a 32bit kernel? Or you meant i386 to say x86? The previous report
> is also on a 32bit kernel. 32bit didn't get nearly the same amount of
> testing of 64bit, but it's hard to see how 32bit could matter here!
> 
> Could you both send your .config (the UP one from Thomas, and the one
> from your core2duo laptop).
> 
> You also have CONFIG_TASKSTATS, CONFIG_TASK_DELAY_ACCT
> CONFIG_TASK_XACCT, TASK_IO_ACCOUNTING all =y right?  Not everyone is
> running iotop you both are (before this bugreport I had TASKSTAT=n and
> I still have on most systems), so maybe it's something related to
> TASKSTATS corrupting memory or screwing the accounting when iotop
> runs? That's just an idea not to exclude even if almost certainly not
> realistic. Did it ever happen on a system with TASKSTAT=n or not
> running iotop to rule it out? (likely even if it's buggy, it won't be
> noticeable unless iotop runs)
> 
> Being reproduced on UP probably means the per-cpu vmstat.c is not to
> blame (especially if it happens both UP and SMP builds, and if preempt
> is confirmed disabled).
> 
> We've to restrict the scope of the bug a bit and try to find commons in
> the .config too.
> 
> Here I've no sign of hang from too_many_isolated from 39rc6 and I'm
> sure it never occurred to me in the past.
> 
> Thanks a lot,
> Andrea

Is there any progress on this? I've observed this behavior different times too, 
with kernel 2.6.39-rc7. After a while working some processes (kmail, 
akregator, konqueror) got stuck in D state together with the khugepaged task. 
I could kill the hanging process (kill -n 9) but the khugepaged task stayed in 
D state.
The system is a Pentium M (Banias) with 1.3GHz and 1.5G RAM. Attached is the 
output from multiple SYSRQ+T, content from /proc/zoneinfo and the config.

regards,
  Johannes

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