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Message-ID: <1306246306.18455.36.camel@twins>
Date:	Tue, 24 May 2011 16:11:46 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
To:	Vince Weaver <vweaver1@...s.utk.edu>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, fbuihuu@...il.com, mingo@...e.hu,
	paulus@...ba.org, acme@...hat.com
Subject: Re: perf: regression -- missing /sys/devices/system/cpu/perf_events

On Tue, 2011-05-24 at 09:59 -0400, Vince Weaver wrote:
> I know this is a bit late, but for some reason our users sit on these 
> things and then they aren't willing to take it up with linux-kernel 
> themselves
> 
> > > > commit 15ac9a395a753cb28c674e7ea80386ffdff21785
> > > > Author: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
> > > > Date:   Mon Sep 6 15:51:45 2010 +0200
> > > > 
> > > >    perf: Remove the sysfs bits
> 
> removed the /sys/devices/system/cpu/perf_events
> I thought things in /sys were stable ABI?

if only.. that stuff changes way too often (not to say that's a good
thing).

> Apparently it's common for people to have scripts to check if 
> perf_events is available in a kernel by checking the existence of
> /sys/devices/system/cpu/perf_events, even if they didn't use the
> files within.

A much more reliable way is simply doing the syscall and seeing what
happens. But if you want to poke around in sysfs, /sys/bus/event_source/
is the new location.

> Now that 2.6.38 kernels are starting to hit the distros we're getting 
> complaints that it's missing.

Urgh, they'd been broken long before.. and I hadn't received any
complaints from people about that. I didn't see the point in keeping
broken interfaces around, esp. since with moving to multiple-pmu they
don't make any sense at all.

Ingo, any idea what to do here?
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