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Message-ID: <4DEEB31B.30013.19E648C8@pageexec.freemail.hu>
Date:	Wed, 08 Jun 2011 01:24:11 +0200
From:	pageexec@...email.hu
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
CC:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@....edu>, x86@...nel.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Jesper Juhl <jj@...osbits.net>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@...en8.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Arjan van de Ven <arjan@...radead.org>,
	Jan Beulich <JBeulich@...ell.com>,
	richard -rw- weinberger <richard.weinberger@...il.com>,
	Mikael Pettersson <mikpe@...uu.se>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@...il.com>,
	Louis Rilling <Louis.Rilling@...labs.com>,
	Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] x86-64, vsyscalls: Rename UNSAFE_VSYSCALLS to COMPAT_VSYSCALLS

On 7 Jun 2011 at 12:05, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> * pageexec@...email.hu <pageexec@...email.hu> wrote:
> 
> > you called this feature "borderline security FUD" but have yet to 
> > prove it.
> 
> No, i did not claim that this feature is "borderline security FUD", 
> at all.

so can i take it as your concession that the vsyscall feature is indeed
a security problem and it's being randomized/(re)moved for security reasons?

in that case the naming of this feature is correct and you have no reason
to call it "borderline security FUD". so make up your mind!

> That the *NAMING* is borderline security FUD. (I already applied the 
> patches before i wrote that mail, see the commit notifications on 
> lkml.)

how can the name be "borderline security FUD" but what the name refers
to not be that? you see, we name things for a reason, mostly because
we think the name has something to do with the thing it names, duh?

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