Date:	Tue, 14 Jun 2011 16:53:46 +0100
From:	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@...il.com>
To:	Hannes Reinecke <hare@...e.de>
Cc:	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>,
	Linux Virtualization <virtualization@...ts.linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel <qemu-devel@...gnu.org>,
	Rusty Russell <rusty@...tcorp.com.au>,
	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <chellwig@...hat.com>,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@...hat.com>, kvm@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: virtio scsi host draft specification, v3

On Tue, Jun 14, 2011 at 9:39 AM, Hannes Reinecke <hare@...e.de> wrote:
> On 06/10/2011 04:35 PM, Paolo Bonzini wrote:
>>>
>>> If requests are placed on arbitrary queues you'll inevitably run on
>>> locking issues to ensure strict request ordering.
>>> I would add here:
>>>
>>> If a device uses more than one queue it is the responsibility of the
>>> device to ensure strict request ordering.
>>
>> Applied with s/device/guest/g.
>>
>>> Please do not rely in bus/target/lun here. These are leftovers from
>>> parallel SCSI and do not have any meaning on modern SCSI
>>> implementation (eg FC or SAS). Rephrase that to
>>>
>>> The lun field is the Logical Unit Number as defined in SAM.
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>>>>      The status byte is written by the device to be the SCSI status
>>>>      code.
>>>
>>> ?? I doubt that exists. Make that:
>>>
>>> The status byte is written by the device to be the status code as
>>> defined in SAM.
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>>>>      The response byte is written by the device to be one of the
>>>>      following:
>>>>
>>>>      - VIRTIO_SCSI_S_OK when the request was completed and the
>>>>      status byte
>>>>        is filled with a SCSI status code (not necessarily "GOOD").
>>>>
>>>>      - VIRTIO_SCSI_S_UNDERRUN if the content of the CDB requires
>>>>      transferring
>>>>        more data than is available in the data buffers.
>>>>
>>>>      - VIRTIO_SCSI_S_ABORTED if the request was cancelled due to a
>>>>      reset
>>>>        or another task management function.
>>>>
>>>>      - VIRTIO_SCSI_S_FAILURE for other host or guest error. In
>>>>      particular,
>>>>        if neither dataout nor datain is empty, and the
>>>>        VIRTIO_SCSI_F_INOUT
>>>>        feature has not been negotiated, the request will be
>>>>        immediately
>>>>        returned with a response equal to VIRTIO_SCSI_S_FAILURE.
>>>>
>>> And, of course:
>>>
>>> VIRTIO_SCSI_S_DISCONNECT if the request could not be processed due
>>> to a communication failure (eg device was removed or could not be
>>> reached).
>>
>> Ok.
>>
>>> This specification implies a strict one-to-one mapping between host
>>> and target. IE there is no way of specifying more than one target
>>> per host.
>>
>> Actually no, the intention is to use hierarchical LUNs to support
>> more than one target per host.
>>
> Can't.
>
> Hierarchical LUNs is a target-internal representation.
> The initiator (ie guest OS) should _not_ try to assume anything about the
> internal structure and just use the LUN as an opaque number.
>
> Reason being that the LUN addressing is not unique, and there are several
> choices on how to represent a given LUN.
> So the consensus here is that different LUN numbers represent
> different physical devices, regardless on the (internal) LUN representation.
> Which in turn means we cannot use the LUN number to convey anything else
> than a device identification relative to a target.
>
> Cf SAM-3 paragraph 4.8:
>
> A logical unit number is a field (see 4.9) containing 64 bits that
> identifies the logical unit within a SCSI target device
> when accessed by a SCSI target port.
>
> IE the LUN is dependent on the target, but you cannot make assumptions on
> the target.
>
> Consequently, it's in the hosts' responsibility to figure out the targets in
> the system. After that it invokes the 'scan' function from the SCSI
> midlayer.
> You can't start from a LUN and try to figure out the targets ...
>
> If you want to support more than on target per host you need some sort of
> enumeration/callback which allows the host to figure out
> the number of available targets.
> But in general the targets are referenced by the target port identifier as
> specified in the appropriate standard (eg FC or SAS).
> Sadly, we don't have any standard to fall back on for this.
>
> If, however, we decide to expose some details about the backend, we could be
> using the values from the backend directly.
> EG we could be forwarding the SCSI target port identifier here
> (if backed by real hardware) or creating our own SAS-type
> identifier when backed by qemu block. Then we could just query
> the backend via a new command on the controlq
> (eg 'list target ports') and wouldn't have to worry about any protocol
> specific details here.

I think we want to be able to pass through one or more SCSI targets,
so we probably need a 'list target ports' control command.

Stefan
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