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Message-ID: <20110616114045.GA27060@elte.hu>
Date:	Thu, 16 Jun 2011 13:40:45 +0200
From:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>
Cc:	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>,
	Anthony Liguori <anthony@...emonkey.ws>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@...e.de>,
	Prasad Joshi <prasadjoshi124@...il.com>,
	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	kvm@...r.kernel.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Sasha Levin <levinsasha928@...il.com>,
	Cyrill Gorcunov <gorcunov@...il.com>,
	Asias He <asias.hejun@...il.com>,
	Jens Axboe <jaxboe@...ionio.com>
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] Native Linux KVM tool v2


* Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org> wrote:

> On Thu, Jun 16, 2011 at 01:22:30PM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:

> > Such as? I don't think apps can actually know whether disk blocks 
> > have been 'instantiated' by a particular filesystem or not, so 
> > the manpage:
> 
> In general they can't.  The only good use case for sync_file_range 
> is to paper over^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^Hcontrol write back behaviour.

Well, if overwrite is fundamentally safe on a filesystem (which is 
most of them) then sync_file_range() would work - and it has the big 
advantage that it's a pretty simple facility.

Filesystems that cannot guarantee that should map their 
sync_file_range() implementation to fdatasync() or so, right?

Thanks,

	Ingo
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