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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1106171756470.4381@localhost6.localdomain6>
Date:	Fri, 17 Jun 2011 18:06:06 -0400 (EDT)
From:	"Robert P. J. Day" <rpjday@...shcourse.ca>
To:	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: should CONFIG_TMPFS_POSIX_ACL be so easily deselectable?


  long story short:  in updating to a slightly newer hand-rolled
kernel (2.6.39-rc7 -> 3.0.0-rc3) on my ubuntu system, i somehow (no
idea how) managed to deselect CONFIG_TMPFS_POSIX_ACL without realizing
it.  the consequences of this were that sound suddenly disappeared
under the new kernel, for a fairly obvious reason -- ALSA needs ACLs
under /dev to give R/W access to the user to the device files under
/dev/snd/.

  as i said, i have no idea how i managed to do this but i eventually
tracked it down, re-selected that option, rebuilt and i have sound
again.  but i noticed that in fs/Kconfig, that option is independently
selectable from TMPFS, so it's (as i learned) deviously easy to
deselect, with annoying consequences.

  more to the point, given the apparent necessity of ACLs under /dev
for proper sound operation, the help info for that option seems a bit
misleading:

config TMPFS_POSIX_ACL
        bool "Tmpfs POSIX Access Control Lists"
        depends on TMPFS
        select TMPFS_XATTR
        select GENERIC_ACL
        help
          ... snip ...
          If you don't know what Access Control Lists are, say N.

  yeah, i think that help line might not want to dismiss tmpfs ACLs
quite so quickly.  thoughts?

rday

p.s.  i do notice a fairly recent change to that config file related
to this:

commit 4db70f73e56961b9bcdfd0c36c62847a18b7dbb5
Author: Eric Paris <eparis@...hat.com>
Date:   Wed May 25 19:49:18 2011 -0700

    tmpfs: fix XATTR N overriding POSIX_ACL Y

    Choosing TMPFS_XATTR default N was switching off TMPFS_POSIX_ACL,
    even if it had been Y in oldconfig; and Linus reports that PulseAudio
    goes subtly wrong unless it can use ACLs on /dev/shm.

    Make TMPFS_POSIX_ACL select TMPFS_XATTR (and depend upon TMPFS),
    and move the TMPFS_POSIX_ACL entry before the TMPFS_XATTR entry,
    to avoid asking unnecessary questions then ignoring their answers.


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