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Message-ID: <BANLkTik5+R3L5MQN9a4JVOL+Yt7y=72OsK0rDeAcNAJcaZKXsw@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 20 Jun 2011 15:16:48 -0700
From:	Justin TerAvest <teravest@...gle.com>
To:	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>
Cc:	linux kernel mailing list <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>, Tao Ma <tm@....ma>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] cfq: Fix starvation of async writes in presence of heavy
 sync workload

On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 9:45 AM, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 09:14:18AM -0700, Justin TerAvest wrote:
>> On Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 7:16 AM, Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com> wrote:
>> > In presence of heavy sync workload CFQ can starve asnc writes.
>> > If one launches multiple readers (say 16), then one can notice
>> > that CFQ can withhold dispatch of WRITEs for a very long time say
>> > 200 or 300 seconds.
>> >
>> > Basically CFQ schedules an async queue but does not dispatch any
>> > writes because it is waiting for exisintng sync requests in queue to
>> > finish. While it is waiting, one or other reader gets queued up and
>> > preempts the async queue. So we did schedule the async queue but never
>> > dispatched anything from it. This can repeat for long time hence
>> > practically starving Writers.
>> >
>> > This patch allows async queue to dispatch atleast 1 requeust once
>> > it gets scheduled and denies preemption if async queue has been
>> > waiting for sync requests to drain and has not been able to dispatch
>> > a request yet.
>> >
>> > One concern with this fix is that how does it impact readers
>> > in presence of heavy writting going on.
>> >
>> > I did a test where I launch firefox, load a website and close
>> > firefox and measure the time. I ran the test 3 times and took
>> > average.
>> >
>> > - Vanilla kernel time ~= 1 minute 40 seconds
>> > - Patched kenrel time ~= 1 minute 35 seconds
>> >
>> > Basically it looks like that for this test times have not
>> > changed much for this test. But I would not claim that it does
>> > not impact reader's latencies at all. It might show up in
>> > other workloads.
>> >
>> > I think we anyway need to fix writer starvation. If this patch
>> > causes issues, then we need to look at reducing writer's
>> > queue depth further to improve latencies for readers.
>>
>> Maybe we should be more specific about what it means to "fix writer starvation"
>>
>
> Tao ma recently ran into issues with writer starvation. Here is
> the lkml thread.
>
> https://lkml.org/lkml/2011/6/9/167
>
> I also ran some fio based scripts launching multiple readers
> and multiple buffered writers and noticed that there are large
> windows where we don't dispatch even a single request from
> async queues. That's what starvation is. Time period for
> not dispatching request was in the range of 200 seconds.

How do we establish what's acceptable? My complaint is that it's not
obvious what tradeoffs to make in the I/O scheduler.

>
>> This makes the preemption logic slightly harder to understand, and I'm
>> concerned we'll keep making little adjustments like this to the
>> scheduler.
>
> If you have other ideas for handling this, we can definitely give
> it a try.

I haven't written out a case to prove it, but it seems like other
preemption logic (like the cfq_rq_close() case) could also cause some
requests to be starved indefinitely.

I think if we want to make stronger guarantees about request
starvation, we might have to rethink how preemption works.

>
> Thanks
> Vivek
>
>>
>> >
>> > Reported-and-Tested-by: Tao Ma <tm@....ma>
>> > Signed-off-by: Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>
>> > ---
>> >  block/cfq-iosched.c |    9 ++++++++-
>> >  1 file changed, 8 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
>> >
>> > Index: linux-2.6/block/cfq-iosched.c
>> > ===================================================================
>> > --- linux-2.6.orig/block/cfq-iosched.c  2011-06-10 10:05:34.660781278 -0400
>> > +++ linux-2.6/block/cfq-iosched.c       2011-06-20 08:29:13.328186380 -0400
>> > @@ -3315,8 +3315,15 @@ cfq_should_preempt(struct cfq_data *cfqd
>> >         * if the new request is sync, but the currently running queue is
>> >         * not, let the sync request have priority.
>> >         */
>> > -       if (rq_is_sync(rq) && !cfq_cfqq_sync(cfqq))
>> > +       if (rq_is_sync(rq) && !cfq_cfqq_sync(cfqq)) {
>> > +               /*
>> > +                * Allow atleast one dispatch otherwise this can repeat
>> > +                * and writes can be starved completely
>> > +                */
>> > +               if (!cfqq->slice_dispatch)
>> > +                       return false;
>> >                return true;
>> > +       }
>> >
>> >        if (new_cfqq->cfqg != cfqq->cfqg)
>> >                return false;
>> >
>> >
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