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Message-ID: <20110701100117.GA1784@elte.hu> Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 12:01:17 +0200 From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu> To: Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com> Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>, Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>, Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>, Stephane Eranian <eranian@...gle.com>, David Ahern <dsahern@...il.com>, Sam Liao <phyomh@...il.com> Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] perf tools updates * Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@...il.com> wrote: > Ingo, > > Please pull the perf/core branch that can be found at: > > git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/frederic/random-tracing.git > perf/core > > It adds the inverted callchains support and let one use > parent filtering with parent sorting at the same time, because > it appears to me that inverted callchains sorted by filtered > parents is pretty useful, and extendable to more cool things. > > Anyway inverted callchains used with some different sorting combination > in general can provide some interesting analysis flavours. > > Having played with it a bit. It seems to me the callee point > of view (traditional -g callchains) is better suited to > find the precise zoomed-in places where cpu time is most > spent. Spot contention places, etc... > > OTOH, caller point of view (-G, inverted callchain), is > for zoomed out observation, of course. It's more suited for > global profiling. To get a big overview of where the hot bulk > of a program is executing for example. > > Examples: > > - look at the hottest tree of call of a program. > > ./perf report -G -s pid --stdio > > 5.73% perf:11933 > | > --- __libc_start_main > | > |--99.18%-- main > | run_builtin > | cmd_bench > | | > | |--89.68%-- bench_sched_messaging > | | | > | | |--96.11%-- create_worker > | | | | > | | | |--95.10%-- __libc_fork > | | | | | > | | | | |--93.99%-- stub_clone > | | | | | sys_clone > | | | | | do_fork > | | | | | | > | | | | | |--99.09%-- copy_process > | | | | | | | > | | | | | | |--91.62%-- dup_mm > > - look at where kernel threads spend their time > > perf report -G -p kernel_thread -s parent --stdio > > # Overhead Parent symbol > # ........ ............. > # > 0.07% kernel_thread_helper > | > --- kernel_thread_helper > kthread > | > |--50.00%-- kjournald2 > | jbd2_journal_commit_transaction > | journal_submit_commit_record > | submit_bh > | submit_bio > | generic_make_request > | __make_request > | __blk_run_queue > | scsi_request_fn > | scsi_dispatch_cmd > | ata_scsi_queuecmd > | ata_scsi_translate > | ata_qc_issue > | ata_bmdma_qc_issue > | ata_sff_qc_issue > | ata_sff_tf_load > | ata_sff_check_status > | ioread8 > | > --50.00%-- rcu_kthread > rcu_process_callbacks > delayed_put_task_struct > __put_task_struct > free_task > free_thread_info > free_thread_xstate > kmem_cache_free > __slab_free > add_partial > _raw_spin_lock > lock_acquire > > etc... > > We could extend that by applying some cut in the callchains. > For example stop a callchain on a given dso and you can profile > which exported function is most called in it. > > Anyway, this has some nice potential. > > > Thanks, > Frederic > --- > > Frederic Weisbecker (5): > perf tools: Make sort operations static > perf tools: Remove sort print helpers declarations > perf tools: Don't display ignored entries on stdio ui > perf tools: Allow sort dimensions to be registered more than once > perf tools: Only display parent field if explictly sorted > > Sam Liao (1): > perf tools: Add inverted call graph report support. > > > tools/perf/Documentation/perf-report.txt | 15 ++- > tools/perf/builtin-report.c | 42 +++++- > tools/perf/util/callchain.h | 6 + > tools/perf/util/hist.c | 6 +- > tools/perf/util/session.c | 7 +- > tools/perf/util/sort.c | 223 ++++++++++++++---------------- > tools/perf/util/sort.h | 14 -- > 7 files changed, 169 insertions(+), 144 deletions(-) Pulled, thanks a lot Frederic and Sam Liao! This feature looks really useful. One thing that occured to me: could we perhaps make -G the default for -g -A profiles and keep -g the default for task-hierarchy (and per PID) profiling? [a hint could be added to the comment section of the output to show that there's a -g/-G distinction.] The reason is that -G is arguably more suited for global, system-wide profiling - and this is also the mode of display that sysprof uses and which people got used to in general. There is some small confusion potential from switching the view like this but i think if we point it out in the output it should be fine: # # Bottom-up (-g) call-graph, use -G to view the top-down call-graph # # # Top-down (-G) call-graph, use -g to view the bottom-up call-graph # Another thing: could we perhaps make inverted call-graphs the default view for perf top --tui as well? That is a common 'global view' profiling tool as well. Finally, we should perhaps refer to them as bottom-up versus top-down call-graphs, 'inverted' and 'normal' does not really reflect the true nature of the call-graph, and to many people top-down is the natural call-graph view mode ... Thanks, Ingo -- To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org More majordomo info at http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html Please read the FAQ at http://www.tux.org/lkml/
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