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Message-ID: <20110701120059.GL20990@elte.hu>
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2011 14:00:59 +0200
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc: Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@...nwall.com>,
Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
James Morris <jmorris@...ei.org>,
Namhyung Kim <namhyung@...il.com>,
Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@...e.de>,
kernel-hardening@...ts.openwall.com, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] kernel: escape non-ASCII and control characters in
printk()
* Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:38 AM, Vasiliy Kulikov <segoon@...nwall.com> wrote:
> >
> > Sure, I don't propose it anymore (v2 goes without it).
>
> What point would you like to filter things at?
>
> I really think that user space should do its own filtering - nobody
> does a plain 'cat' on dmesg. Or if they do, they really have
> themselves to blame.
>
> And afaik, we don't do any escape sequence handling at the console
> level either, so you cannot mess up the console with control
> characters.
>
> And the most dangerous character seems to be one that you don't
> filter: the one we really do react to is '\n', and you could possibly
> make confusing log messages by embedding a newline in your string and
> then trying to make the rest look like something bad (say, an oops).
>
> So I'm not entirely convinced about this filtering at all.
Yeah. It would be nice to see a demonstration of at least one 'bad
thing' that is possible via the current code, before we protect
against it.
The claim the patch makes is rather specific:
| There are numerous printk() instances with user supplied input as
| "%s" data, and unprivileged user may craft log messages with
| substrings containing control characters via these printk()s.
| Control characters might fool root viewing the logs via tty, e.g.
| using ^[1A to suppress the previous log line.
So it ought to be demonstrable.
Thanks,
Ingo
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