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Message-ID: <20110706165357.GG4590@erda.amd.com>
Date:	Wed, 6 Jul 2011 18:53:57 +0200
From:	Robert Richter <robert.richter@....com>
To:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
CC:	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
	Paul Mackerras <paulus@...ba.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...stprotocols.net>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [RFC] [PATCH] perf: Attaching an event to a specific PMU

On 05.07.11 05:12:52, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl> wrote:
> 
> > > Overall, my approach improves the perf design. It adds a better 
> > > and more intuitve access to perf from user space with clear and 
> > > common methods and interfaces. Please let me know the concerns 
> > > you have.
> > 
> > Its redundant, this interface ship has sailed, its not going to 
> > happen.
> 
> Even if we had the choice, i don't see how a /dev based enumeration 
> of PMUs is in any way better than a topologically attached set of 
> PMUs in /sys.
> 
> This kind of structure is nice in principle:
> 
>  # ls -l /dev/pmu/
>  total 0
>  crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 5 Jul  8  2011 breakpoint
>  crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 4 Jul  8  2011 cpu
>  crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 6 Jul  8  2011 proto
>  crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 1 Jul  8  2011 software
>  crw-rw---- 1 root root 254, 2 Jul  8  2011 tracepoint
> 
> But it should be done in /sys/.

I have to learn yet why /dev is bad and /sys is good...

The system topology is always in /sys, also for device nodes. But we
can't get a device file descriptor from /sys. I doubt /sys is capable
to handle a device use count (need to be checked). We actually must
grab the pmu while attaching events to it. And, user space
implementation is must easier with /dev (see code in my previous
mail).

My patch also includes code that creates a device class. It is also
visible in /sys/class/pmu/*.

-Robert

-- 
Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Operating System Research Center

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