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Message-Id: <42789999-04D6-4709-80F8-55FAC3ECA6AC@suse.de>
Date:	Mon, 25 Jul 2011 10:44:39 +0200
From:	Alexander Graf <agraf@...e.de>
To:	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>
Cc:	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@....de>,
	torvalds@...ux-foundation.org, avi@...hat.com,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	kvm@...r.kernel.org, gorcunov@...il.com, levinsasha928@...il.com,
	asias.hejun@...il.com, prasadjoshi124@...il.com
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] Native Linux KVM tool for 3.1


On 25.07.2011, at 10:37, Pekka Enberg wrote:

> Hi Alexander,
> 
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Alexander Graf <agraf@...e.de> wrote:
>>> Damn you Ingo Molnar, I knew you'd somehow get all the credit for our
>>> hard work! ;-)
>> 
>> Well, IIUC he's the one initiating the whole thing, no?
> 
> As much as I appreciate Ingo's help and support with the project, no,
> I don't consider him to have initiated the whole thing. Yes, it's his
> idea and that's what got me into hacking on the thing in the first
> place. But calling this Ingo's crusade is somewhat missing the point.
> It's really people like Asias, Sasha, Cyrill, and Prashad who have
> made all the heavy lifting.
> 
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Alexander Graf <agraf@...e.de> wrote:
>>> More seriously, though, I fail to see what's bothering you Alexander.
>>> I and Ingo already mentioned we wouldn't be hacking on Qemu even if
>>> there wasn't no tools/kvm. It's not as if we're putting *your* user
>>> space code into the kernel tree - we wrote our own! What's wrong with
>>> that?
>> 
>> Nothing. I like competition. But why push it into the kernel? It's not a kernel, it's not a library the kernels needs for internal stuff. So why would it have to be in there?
> 
> For the same reasons we want tools/perf to be there.

Yeah, I want a pony too.


Alex

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