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Message-ID: <CAAuSN91Pi8SbWbU87v7QdDWS_N1GiXsM8dGUYSYKTUCUp+2Mww@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:26:12 -0700
From:	ZAK Magnus <zakmagnus@...gle.com>
To:	Don Zickus <dzickus@...hat.com>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Mandeep Singh Baines <msb@...omium.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v4 2/2] Output stall traces in /proc

On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 11:43 AM, Don Zickus <dzickus@...hat.com> wrote:
> I missed that you defined that as a pointer to a spinlock and assigned it
> later.  I see what you are doing now, but I am not a fan of it because you
> are now using the same spinlock in both the NMI context and the userspace
> context.  This can cause deadlocks if something got screwed up in the
> seq_printf functions or produced a very large amount of data.  Normally
> you don't want to do that.
>
> What others have done like perf and the APEI error handling is use
> something called irq_work_queue(??).  Basically you would capture the
> tracae in the NMI context, put it on an irq_work_queue and in the
> interrupt context save it to your global trace variable.  Then you could
> put spin_lock_irqsave inside the proc sys function and the work queue
> function and not have any potential deadlocks.
Work queue? Okay. The worker thread still needs a lock in order to
share the intermediate buffer with the NMI context, though. Any chance
of something screwing up in the middle of copying that structure,
causing a stall and deadlocking with the NMI?

Or maybe the intermediate buffer should be dynamically allocated. That
would work without a lock, although it seems slightly inefficient.

Regarding the lock between the work queue thread and the system call,
maybe that should become a mutex instead, since it's all outside of
interrupt context at that point?

> The softstall case should be ok though.
Why's that? The soft stall traces are not written in a NMI context but
just in a regular interrupt context, right? Doesn't that pose similar
problems?


These are weird rare corner cases anyway, right? Maybe the simplest
thing could be to let the interrupts only try_lock(), so they might
sometimes fail to record a stall, but it would be a pretty big
coincidence.
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