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Date:	Tue, 9 Aug 2011 08:33:45 +0900
From:	KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>
To:	Johannes Weiner <jweiner@...hat.com>
Cc:	"linux-mm@...ck.org" <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"nishimura@....nes.nec.co.jp" <nishimura@....nes.nec.co.jp>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@...e.cz>,
	"akpm@...ux-foundation.org" <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	abrestic@...gle.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3] memcg: add memory.vmscan_stat

On Mon, 8 Aug 2011 14:43:33 +0200
Johannes Weiner <jweiner@...hat.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 05:15:40PM +0900, KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki wrote:
> > [PATCH] add memory.vmscan_stat
> > 
> > commit log of commit 0ae5e89 " memcg: count the soft_limit reclaim in..."
> > says it adds scanning stats to memory.stat file. But it doesn't because
> > we considered we needed to make a concensus for such new APIs.
> > 
> > This patch is a trial to add memory.scan_stat. This shows
> >   - the number of scanned pages(total, anon, file)
> >   - the number of rotated pages(total, anon, file)
> >   - the number of freed pages(total, anon, file)
> >   - the number of elaplsed time (including sleep/pause time)
> > 
> >   for both of direct/soft reclaim.
> > 
> > The biggest difference with oringinal Ying's one is that this file
> > can be reset by some write, as
> > 
> >   # echo 0 ...../memory.scan_stat
> > 
> > Example of output is here. This is a result after make -j 6 kernel
> > under 300M limit.
> > 
> > [kamezawa@...extal ~]$ cat /cgroup/memory/A/memory.scan_stat
> > [kamezawa@...extal ~]$ cat /cgroup/memory/A/memory.vmscan_stat
> > scanned_pages_by_limit 9471864
> > scanned_anon_pages_by_limit 6640629
> > scanned_file_pages_by_limit 2831235
> > rotated_pages_by_limit 4243974
> > rotated_anon_pages_by_limit 3971968
> > rotated_file_pages_by_limit 272006
> > freed_pages_by_limit 2318492
> > freed_anon_pages_by_limit 962052
> > freed_file_pages_by_limit 1356440
> > elapsed_ns_by_limit 351386416101
> > scanned_pages_by_system 0
> > scanned_anon_pages_by_system 0
> > scanned_file_pages_by_system 0
> > rotated_pages_by_system 0
> > rotated_anon_pages_by_system 0
> > rotated_file_pages_by_system 0
> > freed_pages_by_system 0
> > freed_anon_pages_by_system 0
> > freed_file_pages_by_system 0
> > elapsed_ns_by_system 0
> > scanned_pages_by_limit_under_hierarchy 9471864
> > scanned_anon_pages_by_limit_under_hierarchy 6640629
> > scanned_file_pages_by_limit_under_hierarchy 2831235
> > rotated_pages_by_limit_under_hierarchy 4243974
> > rotated_anon_pages_by_limit_under_hierarchy 3971968
> > rotated_file_pages_by_limit_under_hierarchy 272006
> > freed_pages_by_limit_under_hierarchy 2318492
> > freed_anon_pages_by_limit_under_hierarchy 962052
> > freed_file_pages_by_limit_under_hierarchy 1356440
> > elapsed_ns_by_limit_under_hierarchy 351386416101
> > scanned_pages_by_system_under_hierarchy 0
> > scanned_anon_pages_by_system_under_hierarchy 0
> > scanned_file_pages_by_system_under_hierarchy 0
> > rotated_pages_by_system_under_hierarchy 0
> > rotated_anon_pages_by_system_under_hierarchy 0
> > rotated_file_pages_by_system_under_hierarchy 0
> > freed_pages_by_system_under_hierarchy 0
> > freed_anon_pages_by_system_under_hierarchy 0
> > freed_file_pages_by_system_under_hierarchy 0
> > elapsed_ns_by_system_under_hierarchy 0
> >
> > total_xxxx is for hierarchy management.
> > 
> > This will be useful for further memcg developments and need to be
> > developped before we do some complicated rework on LRU/softlimit
> > management.
> > 
> > This patch adds a new struct memcg_scanrecord into scan_control struct.
> > sc->nr_scanned at el is not designed for exporting information. For example,
> > nr_scanned is reset frequentrly and incremented +2 at scanning mapped pages.
> > 
> > For avoiding complexity, I added a new param in scan_control which is for
> > exporting scanning score.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki <kamezawa.hiroyu@...fujitsu.com>
> > 
> > Changelog:
> >   - fixed the trigger for recording nr_freed in shrink_inactive_list()
> > Changelog:
> >   - renamed as vmscan_stat
> >   - handle file/anon
> >   - added "rotated"
> >   - changed names of param in vmscan_stat.
> > ---
> >  Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt |   85 +++++++++++++++++++
> >  include/linux/memcontrol.h       |   19 ++++
> >  include/linux/swap.h             |    6 -
> >  mm/memcontrol.c                  |  172 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
> >  mm/vmscan.c                      |   39 +++++++-
> >  5 files changed, 303 insertions(+), 18 deletions(-)
> > 
> > Index: mmotm-0710/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
> > ===================================================================
> > --- mmotm-0710.orig/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
> > +++ mmotm-0710/Documentation/cgroups/memory.txt
> > @@ -380,7 +380,7 @@ will be charged as a new owner of it.
> >  
> >  5.2 stat file
> >  
> > -memory.stat file includes following statistics
> > +5.2.1 memory.stat file includes following statistics
> >  
> >  # per-memory cgroup local status
> >  cache		- # of bytes of page cache memory.
> > @@ -438,6 +438,89 @@ Note:
> >  	 file_mapped is accounted only when the memory cgroup is owner of page
> >  	 cache.)
> >  
> > +5.2.2 memory.vmscan_stat
> > +
> > +memory.vmscan_stat includes statistics information for memory scanning and
> > +freeing, reclaiming. The statistics shows memory scanning information since
> > +memory cgroup creation and can be reset to 0 by writing 0 as
> > +
> > + #echo 0 > ../memory.vmscan_stat
> > +
> > +This file contains following statistics.
> > +
> > +[param]_[file_or_anon]_pages_by_[reason]_[under_heararchy]
> > +[param]_elapsed_ns_by_[reason]_[under_hierarchy]
> > +
> > +For example,
> > +
> > +  scanned_file_pages_by_limit indicates the number of scanned
> > +  file pages at vmscan.
> > +
> > +Now, 3 parameters are supported
> > +
> > +  scanned - the number of pages scanned by vmscan
> > +  rotated - the number of pages activated at vmscan
> > +  freed   - the number of pages freed by vmscan
> > +
> > +If "rotated" is high against scanned/freed, the memcg seems busy.
> > +
> > +Now, 2 reason are supported
> > +
> > +  limit - the memory cgroup's limit
> > +  system - global memory pressure + softlimit
> > +           (global memory pressure not under softlimit is not handled now)
> > +
> > +When under_hierarchy is added in the tail, the number indicates the
> > +total memcg scan of its children and itself.
> 
> In your implementation, statistics are only accounted to the memcg
> triggering the limit and the respectively scanned memcgs.
> 
> Consider the following setup:
> 
> 	A
>        / \
>       B   C
>      /
>     D
> 
> If D tries to charge but hits the limit of A, then B's hierarchy
> counters do not reflect the reclaim activity resulting in D.
> 
yes, as I expected.

> That's not consistent with how hierarchy counters usually operate, and
> neither with how you documented it.
> 
Hmm.

> On a non-technical note: as Ying Han and I were the other two people
> working on reclaim and statistics, it really irks me that neither of
> us were CCd on this.  Especially on such a controversial change.

I always drop CC if no reply/review comes.

Thanks,
-Kame

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