lists.openwall.net   lists  /  announce  owl-users  owl-dev  john-users  john-dev  passwdqc-users  yescrypt  popa3d-users  /  oss-security  kernel-hardening  musl  sabotage  tlsify  passwords  /  crypt-dev  xvendor  /  Bugtraq  Full-Disclosure  linux-kernel  linux-netdev  linux-ext4  linux-hardening  linux-cve-announce  PHC 
Open Source and information security mailing list archives
 
Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.
[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]
Date:	Wed, 10 Aug 2011 08:43:55 +0900
From:	Kyungmin Park <kmpark@...radead.org>
To:	Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, arnd@...db.de, jh80.chung@...sung.com
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH] request: teach the device more intelligent

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 3:52 AM, Jens Axboe <axboe@...nel.dk> wrote:
> On 2011-08-09 05:47, Kyungmin Park wrote:
>> Hi Jens
>>
>> Now eMMC device requires the upper layer information to improve the data
>> performance and reliability.
>>
>> . Context ID
>> Using the context information, it can sort out the data internally and improve the performance.
>> The main problem is that it's needed to define "What's the context".
>> Actually I expect cfq queue has own unique ID but it doesn't so decide to use the pid instead
>>
>> . Data Tag
>> Using the Data Tag (1-bit information), It writes the data at SLC area when it's hot data. So it can make the chip more reliable.
>> First I expect the REQ_META but current ext4 doesn't pass the WRITE_META. only use the READ_META. so it needs to investigate it.
>>
>> With these characteristics, it's helpful to teach the device. After some consideration. it's needed to pass out these information at request data structure.
>>
>> Can you give your opinions and does it proper fields at requests?
>
> You need this to work on all IO schedulers, not just cfq.
Of course if the concept is acceptable, I'll add the other IO schedulers also.

> And since that's the case, there's no need to add this field since you can just
> retrieve it if the driver asks for it. For CFQ, it could look like this:
>
> static int cfq_foo(struct request *rq)
> {
>        struct cfq_queue *cfqq = rq->elevator_private[1];
>
>        if (cfqq)
>                return cfqq->pid;
>
>        return -1;
> }

The actual user of these information is device driver. e.g.,
drivers/mmc/card/block.c
So it's not good to use cfq data structure at D/D. some time later
these are also used at scsi device drivers.
>
> As to the hot part, I think that would be better as just a request flag
> like eg the meta flag.
Yes it can use the JBD_flags at cfq. but same reason it's not proper
reference at device drivers. that's reason to make a filed at request.

Device driver should or must see the request data structure and don't
refer the upper layer data structures.

Thank you,
Kyungmin Park
--
To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe linux-kernel" in
the body of a message to majordomo@...r.kernel.org
More majordomo info at  http://vger.kernel.org/majordomo-info.html
Please read the FAQ at  http://www.tux.org/lkml/

Powered by blists - more mailing lists

Powered by Openwall GNU/*/Linux Powered by OpenVZ