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Message-ID: <CACqU3MXC_eDqgWDwnVe8KsqoAMTPQNiP6YMHD5G+1sMBhMwXzA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Wed, 10 Aug 2011 13:44:32 -0400
From:	Arnaud Lacombe <lacombar@...il.com>
To:	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org>
Cc:	Michal Marek <mmarek@...e.cz>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-kbuild@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/2] Enable 'make CONFIG_FOO=y oldconfig'

Hi,

On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 12:33 PM, David Woodhouse <dwmw2@...radead.org> wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-08-10 at 10:34 -0400, Arnaud Lacombe wrote:
>> your point being ? I might as well tell you that I find the current
>> behavior of 'all*.config' just as broken wrt. to dependency
>> management.
>
> You might indeed. And I would find that commentary just as irrelevant
> and unhelpful.
>
you are free to do so.

>> > If you have nothing relevant to say, just don't say anything.
>> >
>> maybe you can come with a detailed description of your proposal's
>> behavior, including how to manage case like this, instead of just
>> throwing patch around ?
>
> How's this for a definition:
>
> "The behaviour for unsettable (or unclearable) options shall be exactly
> like it already is if you put them in all*.config, or if you manually
> edit the .config file and run 'make oldconfig', as people have been
> doing for years. There is nothing new to see here."
>
Then I would say it is plain broken, especially if widespread.

>> If I do:
>>
>> # make CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT=y allnoconfig
>>
>> I expect either a success or an error, not a silent discard. And
>> *yes*, the problem already exists with "all*.config".
>
> [dwmw2@i7 linux-2.6]$ make CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT=y allnoconfig
> scripts/kconfig/conf --allnoconfig Kconfig
> #
> # Could not set CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT=y; perhaps it has unmet dependencies?
> #
> #
> # configuration written to .config
> #
Exactly my point, you just successfully created an half-backed config
which is different than what Aunt Tillie wanted you to generate. This
should be an hard error, same for "all*.config", not to mention that
the error message is far from being helpful.

 - Arnaud
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