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Message-ID: <1313103367.26866.39.camel@twins>
Date:	Fri, 12 Aug 2011 00:56:06 +0200
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Wu Fengguang <fengguang.wu@...el.com>
Cc:	"linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-fsdevel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jan Kara <jack@...e.cz>, Christoph Hellwig <hch@....de>,
	Dave Chinner <david@...morbit.com>,
	Greg Thelen <gthelen@...gle.com>,
	Minchan Kim <minchan.kim@...il.com>,
	Vivek Goyal <vgoyal@...hat.com>,
	Andrea Righi <arighi@...eler.com>,
	linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] writeback: dirty position control

On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 19:20 +0200, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> So going by:
> 
>                                          write_bw
>   ref_bw = dirty_ratelimit * pos_ratio * --------
>                                          dirty_bw
> 
> pos_ratio seems to be the feedback on the deviation of the dirty pages
> around its setpoint. So we adjust the reference bw (or rather ratelimit)
> to take account of the shift in output vs input capacity as well as the
> shift in dirty pages around its setpoint.
> 
> From that we derive the condition that: 
> 
>   pos_ratio(setpoint) := 1
> 
> Now in order to create a linear function we need one more condition. We
> get one from the fact that once we hit the limit we should hard throttle
> our writers. We get that by setting the ratelimit to 0, because, after
> all, pause = nr_dirtied / ratelimit would yield inf. in that case. Thus:
> 
>   pos_ratio(limit) := 0
> 
> Using these two conditions we can solve the equations and get your:
> 
>                         limit - dirty
>   pos_ratio(dirty) =  ----------------
>                       limit - setpoint
> 
> Now, for some reason you chose not to use limit, but something like
> min(limit, 4*thresh) something to do with the slope affecting the rate
> of adjustment. This wants a comment someplace. 

Ok, so I think that pos_ratio(limit) := 0, is a stronger condition than
your negative slope (df/dx < 0), simply because it implies your
condition and because it expresses our hard stop at limit.

Also, while I know this is totally over the top, but..

I saw you added a ramp and brake area in future patches, so have you
considered using a third order polynomial instead?

The simple:

 f(x) = -x^3 

has the 'right' shape, all we need is move it so that:

 f(s) = 1

and stretch it to put the single root at our limit. You'd get something
like:

               s - x 3
 f(x) :=  1 + (-----)
                 d

Which, as required, is 1 at our setpoint and the factor d stretches the
middle bit. Which has a single (real) root at: 

  x = s + d, 

by setting that to our limit, we get:

  d = l - s

Making our final function look like:

               s - x 3
 f(x) :=  1 + (-----)
               l - s

You can clamp it at [0,2] or so. The implementation wouldn't be too
horrid either, something like:

unsigned long bdi_pos_ratio(..)
{
	if (dirty > limit)
		return 0;

	if (dirty < 2*setpoint - limit)
		return 2 * SCALE;

	x = SCALE * (setpoint - dirty) / (limit - setpoint);
	xx = (x * x) / SCALE;
	xxx = (xx * x) / SCALE;

	return xxx;
}

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