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Message-ID: <20110817182658.GA26946@redhat.com>
Date:	Wed, 17 Aug 2011 20:26:59 +0200
From:	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
To:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Cc:	Matt Fleming <matt@...sole-pimps.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1] kthreads: allow_signal: don't play with ->blocked

On 08/17, Tejun Heo wrote:
>
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:50:22PM +0100, Matt Fleming wrote:
> > On Tue, 2011-08-16 at 21:51 +0200, Tejun Heo wrote:
> > > I agree with the patchset but given that daemonize() isn't all that
> > > popular and you already posted most (or was it all?) conversions,

Yes, with the patches I sent daemonize() has no callers.

> but in this case it's an interface which is
> quite unpopular and with relatively easy workaround (just use
> kthread).

Agreed.

> The worst thing we can do regarding API change is silently changing
> semantics while not changing the interface.
> ...
> Out-of-kernel user which depended on the combination working would now
> be left with code which compiles fine but behaves differently, which
> sucks big time.

Yes, this is of course possible.

> So, let's please collect all the
> related patches into one series,

This is what I can't understand ;) This connects to your
"How do you wanna route these" question in another thread.

> drop all in-kernel daemonize() users,
> kill daemonize() and then change allow_signal() behavior.

OK, if we kill daemonize() without the deprecation stage, this is fine.

Initially I assumed it won't go away soon, and this sigdelset()
is really nasty although minor.

Oleg.

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