linux-kernel - Re: [stable] [Stable-review] Future of the -longterm kernel releases (i.e. how we pick them).

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Date:	Tue, 23 Aug 2011 21:47:38 -0700
From:	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>
To:	david@...g.hm
Cc:	Jeremiah Foster <jeremiah@...emiahfoster.com>,
	Ben Hutchings <ben@...adent.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, stable@...nel.org,
	akpm@...ux-foundation.org, torvalds@...ux-foundation.org,
	stable-review@...nel.org, alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk,
	Debian kernel maintainers <debian-kernel@...ts.debian.org>
Subject: Re: [stable] [Stable-review] Future of the -longterm kernel releases
 (i.e. how we pick them).

On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 01:20:37PM -0700, david@...g.hm wrote:
> On Wed, 17 Aug 2011, Jeremiah Foster wrote:
> 
> >>Do they need help from the community
> >>instead to help define, implement, and maintain this for them?
> >
> >I think the answer is yes.
> >
> 
> to expand on this a bit.
> 
> it's a lot easier to look at changelogs and see if a -stable or
> -longterm update is relavent to your systems than it is to watch the
> flood of merges to the latest kerenl and then figure out how to
> backport them. BUt people who start up just compiling their own
> kernels frequently become testers, if not contributers to the
> kernel. If everyone only runs the distro kernels, then the upstream
> kernel quality will suffer because nobody is testing it.

I totally agree.

> people running -longterm kernels on their productionsystems will not
> be testing the llatest -rc kernel on those systems, but they are
> likely to be more interested in watching and testng new kernel
> releases (at least on lab machines) than people who just wait for
> things to be backported to the distro kernel.

That's good to hear, hopefully the -longterm kernels are useful for them
and their usage model.  If not, please let me know.

greg k-h
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