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Date: Fri, 2 Sep 2011 10:09:02 -0700
From: Earl Chew <echew@...acom.com>
To: Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>
CC: Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
"viro@...iv.linux.org.uk" <viro@...iv.linux.org.uk>,
"andi@...stfloor.org" <andi@...stfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/1 v2]: coredump: use current->group_leader->comm instead
of current->comm
Oleg,
>> The patterns %n or %N are the same as %e and %E except that they
>> use current->group_leader->comm instead of current->comm.
>
> I simply do not know what is better. Alan has a point imho, "might
> break stuff" is true.
>
> OTOH, %p always reports tgid, not tid...
Which speaks partly to my notion of "consistency".
> But in fact I do not understand the "Using current->group_leader->comm
> makes the name of the core file more consistent" part. Why ?
Internals aside, "%e" is advertised, rightly or wrongly as:
http://lxr.linux.no/#linux+v3.0.4/Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt
%e executable filename (may be shortened)
Using current->comm has the following issues with respect to
the documentation :
Issue 1. The executable filename has the attribute that it is
the same for all threads in one process, while current->comm
does not.
Issue 2. Even for the group leader current->comm is not guaranteed to
be the executable filename at all (the new %E yields that).
I viewed my original change as more "consistent" because it
yielded the attribute alluded to in the documentation --- the
same value for all threads in the one process:
- Consistent with the documentation
- Consistent with respect to process name (as opposed to thread name)
>> A core dump can be triggered from any task in a group,
>
> Indeed. The important case is the private/synchronous signals like
> SIGSEGV, you can see the name of the thread which triggered the crash.
While that is true, it doesn't seem to have been the original intent as
per the %e documentation.
> Imho, this is overkill. This is only used if get_mm_exe_file() fails,
> I don't think this deserves another option. And may be we can use
> group_leader->comm, this is per-process thing anyway.
>
> But I won't insist, I agree either way.
Fundamentally, which do you consider "broken" ?
o fs/exec.c using current->comm for %e
or
o Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt
I suspect we'll fall on the side of keeping "broken behaviour" since
it affects existing code, and instead fix the documentation.
Should get_mm_exe_file() just use current->group_leader->comm since it's
meant to be process specific anyway, and there isn't an existing code base
for %E ?
Evidently I need to patch Documentation/sysctl/kernel.txt too.
Earl
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