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Message-Id: <201109100317.03979.vda.linux@googlemail.com>
Date:	Sat, 10 Sep 2011 03:17:03 +0200
From:	Denys Vlasenko <vda.linux@...glemail.com>
To:	"Indan Zupancic" <indan@....nu>
Cc:	"Oleg Nesterov" <oleg@...hat.com>, "Tejun Heo" <tj@...nel.org>,
	"Denys Vlasenko" <dvlasenk@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Why I want PTRACE_O_TRACESTOP option

On Saturday 10 September 2011 01:09, Indan Zupancic wrote:
> On Fri, September 9, 2011 18:26, Oleg Nesterov wrote:
> > On 09/09, Indan Zupancic wrote:
> >>
> >> It is very useful to set options atomically at SEIZE time.
> >
> > Nobody argues with this.
> >
> >> Another important reason to make PTRACE_O_TRACESTOP an option is
> >> because not everyone uses SEIZE: Users using PTRACE_TRACEME can't
> >> set this option at all.
> >
> > Yes. This was already discussed, PTRACE_TRACEME obviously doesn't
> > work if you need the new features. So far it was decided TRACEME
> > should be avoided,
> 
> How do you want to attach/seize a just forked child without races
> in a less ugly way than with TRACEME?

I needed to do it when I was adding usage of SEIZE to strace.
It goes like this:

- fork
- child: raise(SIGSTOP)
- parent: waits until it sees child stopping
- parent: seizes the child
- parent: kill(child, SIGCONT)


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