linux-kernel - Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/6] xen: don't call vmalloc_sync

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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1109231146510.8700@kaball-desktop>
Date:	Fri, 23 Sep 2011 11:53:35 +0100
From:	Stefano Stabellini <stefano.stabellini@...citrix.com>
To:	Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@...p.org>
CC:	Stefano Stabellini <Stefano.Stabellini@...citrix.com>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	"xen-devel@...ts.xensource.com" <xen-devel@...ts.xensource.com>,
	David Vrabel <david.vrabel@...rix.com>,
	Konrad Rzeszutek Wilk <konrad.wilk@...cle.com>
Subject: Re: [Xen-devel] Re: [PATCH 0/6] xen: don't call vmalloc_sync_all()
 when mapping foreign pages

On Thu, 22 Sep 2011, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> On 09/22/2011 04:06 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> > On Wed, 21 Sep 2011, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> >> On 09/21/2011 03:42 AM, Stefano Stabellini wrote:
> >>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2011, Jeremy Fitzhardinge wrote:
> >>>> This series is relying on regular ram mappings are already synced to all
> >>>> tasks, but I'm not sure that's necessarily guaranteed (for example, if
> >>>> you hotplug new memory into the domain, the new pages won't be mapped
> >>>> into every mm unless they're synced).
> >>> the series is using GFP_KERNEL, so this problem shouldn't occur, right?
> >> What properties do you think GFP_KERNEL guarantees?
> > That the memory is below 4G and always mapped in the kernel 1:1 region.
> 
> Hm, but that's not quite the same thing as "mapped into every
> pagetable".  Lowmem pages always have a kernel virtual address, and its
> always OK to touch them at any point in kernel code[*] because one can
> rely on the fault handler to create mappings as needed - but that
> doesn't mean they're necessarily mapped by present ptes in the current
> pagetable.
> 
> [*] - except NMI handlers

Is that really true?
I quickly went through the fault handler and I couldn't see anything
related to the kernel 1:1 region.


> > Regarding memory hotplug it looks like that x86_32 is mapping new memory
> > ZONE_HIGHMEM, therefore avoiding any problems with GFP_KERNEL allocations.
> > On the other hand x86_64 is mapping the memory ZONE_NORMAL and calling
> > init_memory_mapping on the new range right away. AFAICT changes to
> > the 1:1 mapping in init_mm are automatically synced across all mm's
> > because the pgd is shared?
> 
> TBH I'm not sure.  vmalloc_sync_one/all does seem to do *something* on
> 64-bit, but I was never completely sure what regions of the address
> space were already shared.  I *think* it might be that the pgd and pud
> are not shared, but the pmd down is, so if you add a new pmd you need to
> sync it into all the puds (and puds into pgds if you add a new one of
> those).
> 
> But I'd be happier pretending that vmalloc_sync_* just doesn't exist,
> and deal with it at the hypercall level - in the short term, by just
> making sure that the callers touch all those pages before passing them
> into the hypercall.

That would certainly be an improvement over what we have now.

However I am worried about the gntdev stuff: if I am right and the 1:1
mapping is guaranteed to be sync'ed, then it is OK and we can use
alloc_xenballooned_pages everywhere, otherwise we should fix or remove
alloc_xenballooned_pages from gntdev too.
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