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Message-ID: <4E7C7353.50802@hitachi.com>
Date:	Fri, 23 Sep 2011 20:53:55 +0900
From:	Masami Hiramatsu <masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com>
To:	Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc:	Christoph Hellwig <hch@...radead.org>,
	Srikar Dronamraju <srikar@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Steven Rostedt <rostedt@...dmis.org>,
	Linux-mm <linux-mm@...ck.org>,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...radead.org>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@...stfloor.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@...utronix.de>,
	Jonathan Corbet <corbet@....net>,
	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@...hat.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Jim Keniston <jkenisto@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Roland McGrath <roland@...k.frob.com>,
	Ananth N Mavinakayanahalli <ananth@...ibm.com>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v5 3.1.0-rc4-tip 8/26]   x86: analyze instruction and
 determine fixups.

(2011/09/21 5:53), Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 02:12:25PM -0400, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
>> On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 06:13:10PM +0100, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
>>> You've probably thought of this but it would be nice to skip XOL for
>>> nops.  This would be a common case with static probes (e.g. sdt.h) where
>>> the probe template includes a nop where we can easily plant int $0x3.
>>
>> Do we now have sdt.h support for uprobes?  That's one of the killer
>> features that always seemed to get postponed.
> 
> Not yet but it's a question of doing roughly what SystemTap does to
> parse the appropriate ELF sections and then putting those probes into
> uprobes.
> 
> Masami looked at this and found that SystemTap sdt.h currently requires
> an extra userspace memory store in order to activate probes.  Each probe
> has a "semaphore" 16-bit counter which applications may test before
> hitting the probe itself.  This is used to avoid overhead in
> applications that do expensive argument processing (e.g. creating
> strings) for probes.

Indeed, originally, those semaphores designed for such use cases.
However, some applications *always* use it (e.g. qemu-kvm).

> 
> But this should be solvable so it would be possible to use perf-probe(1)
> on a std.h-enabled binary.  Some distros already ship such binaries!

I'm not sure that we should stick on the current implementation
of the sdt.h. I think we'd better modify the sdt.h to replace
such semaphores with checking whether the tracepoint is changed from nop.

Or, we can introduce an add-hoc ptrace code to perftools for modifying
those semaphores. However, this means that user always has to use
perf to trace applications, and it's hard to trace multiple applications
at a time (can we attach all of them?)...

Thank you,

-- 
Masami HIRAMATSU
Software Platform Research Dept. Linux Technology Center
Hitachi, Ltd., Yokohama Research Laboratory
E-mail: masami.hiramatsu.pt@...achi.com
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