linux-kernel - Re: A Plumber’s Wish List for Linux

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Message-ID: <CAPXgP12nDB2NX6hZabmkUZA9n0PZadi6Yv70LNms8fz9+MnVoA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 7 Oct 2011 12:28:46 +0200
From:	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>
To:	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>
Cc:	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, lennart@...ttering.net,
	harald@...hat.com, david@...ar.dk, greg@...ah.com
Subject: Re: A Plumber’s Wish List for Linux

On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 12:12, Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk> wrote:
>> * (ioctl based?) interface to query and modify the label of a mounted
>> FAT volume:
>
> Seems sensible - or it could go in sysfs ?

That would mean to export superblocks in /sys, which isn't namespaced,
and which might create issues by making information globally available
which probably shouldn't?

>> A FAT labels is implemented as a hidden directory entry in the file
>> system which need to be renamed when changing the file system label,
>
> That would be ugly - it works for FAT as you can create an imaginary name
> which is not possible on the fs, but that isn't true for say ext4. Sysfs
> sounds the logic way, it means adding chunks of code to various file
> systems.

What do you mean would be ugly?

>> * expose CAP_LAST_CAP somehow in the running kernel at runtime:
>> Userspace needs to know the highest valid capability of the running
>> kernel, which right now cannot reliably be retrieved from header files
>> only. The fact that this value cannot be detected properly right now
>> creates various problems for libraries compiled on newer header files
>> which are run on older kernels. They assume capabilities are available
>> which actually aren’t. Specifically, libcap-ng claims that all running
>> processes retain the higher capabilities in this case due to the
>> “inverted” semantics of CapBnd in /proc/$PID/status.
>
> You can probably deduce this by poking around but to me it seems like a
> very sensible idea.
>
>> * allow changing argv[] of a process without mucking with environ[]:
>> Something like setproctitle() or a prctl() would be ideal. Of course it
>> is questionable if services like sendmail make use of this, but otoh for
>> services which fork but do not immediately exec() another binary being
>> able to rename this child processes in ps is of importance.
>
> Yes, its a real valuable tool for r00tkits, worms and general purpose
> deception.

They can do that already today.  The code to do that just looks really
ugly. So the r00tkits could have nicer looking code. :)

Thanks,
Kay
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