linux-kernel - Re: A Plumber’s Wish List for Linux

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Message-ID: <m17h4g2jqy.fsf@fess.ebiederm.org>
Date:	Fri, 07 Oct 2011 21:24:37 -0700
From:	ebiederm@...ssion.com (Eric W. Biederman)
To:	Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@...inter.de>
Cc:	Matt Helsley <matthltc@...ibm.com>,
	Kay Sievers <kay.sievers@...y.org>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, harald@...hat.com, david@...ar.dk,
	greg@...ah.com
Subject: Re: A Plumber’s Wish List for Linux

Lennart Poettering <mzxreary@...inter.de> writes:

> On Fri, 07.10.11 00:49, Matt Helsley (matthltc@...ibm.com) wrote:
>
>> 
>> On Fri, Oct 07, 2011 at 01:17:02AM +0200, Kay Sievers wrote:
>> 
>> <snip>
>> 
>> > * simple, reliable and future-proof way to detect whether a specific pid
>> > is running in a CLONE_NEWPID container, i.e. not in the root PID
>> > namespace. Currently, there are available a few ugly hacks to detect
>> 
>> Is that precisely what's needed or would it be sufficient to know
>> that the pid is running in a child pid namespace of the current pid
>> namespace? If so, I think this could eventually be done by comparing
>> the inode numbers assigned to /proc/<pid>/ns/pid to those of
>> /proc/1/ns/pid.
>
> I think the most interesting test would be to figure out for a process
> if itself is running in a PID namespace. And for that comparing inodes
> wouldn't work since the namespace process would never get access to the
> inode of the outside init.

Strictly correct answer.  All processes are running in a pid namespace.
I think we can implement that in a libc header.

static inline bool in_pid_namespace(void)
{
        return true;
}

Why does it matter if you are running in something other than the
initial pid namespace?  I expect what you are really after is something
else entirely, and you are asking the wrong question.

Eric
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