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Message-ID: <4E9888CC.4060104@gmail.com>
Date:	Fri, 14 Oct 2011 12:09:00 -0700
From:	David Daney <ddaney.cavm@...il.com>
To:	Grant Likely <grant.likely@...retlab.ca>
CC:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>,
	Ming Lei <tom.leiming@...il.com>,
	Andrei Warkentin <awarkentin@...are.com>,
	Greg KH <greg@...ah.com>, Dilan Lee <dilee@...dia.com>,
	"G, Manjunath Kondaiah" <manjugk@...com>,
	Mark Brown <broonie@...nsource.wolfsonmicro.com>,
	linux-mmc@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org,
	Josh Triplett <josh@...htriplett.org>, Manjunath@...per.es,
	linux-omap@...r.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@...ts.infradead.org,
	Linux PM List <linux-pm@...r.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 2/5] drivercore: Add driver probe deferral mechanism

On 10/14/2011 12:03 PM, Grant Likely wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 12:56 PM, David Daney<ddaney.cavm@...il.com>  wrote:
>> On 10/14/2011 10:20 AM, Grant Likely wrote:
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:33 AM, Alan Stern<stern@...land.harvard.edu>
>>>   wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 14 Oct 2011, Grant Likely wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> How can a device acquire children before it has a driver?
>>>>>
>>>>> There are a few potential situations in embedded systems (or at least
>>>>> nothing currently prevents it) where platform setup code constructs a
>>>>> device hierarchy without the aid of device drivers, and it is still
>>>>> possible for a parent device to be attached to a driver.  IIUC, SPARC
>>>>> creates an entire hierarchy of platform_devices from all the nodes in
>>>>> the OpenFirmware device tree, and any of those devices can be bound to
>>>>> a driver.  I don't like that approach, but at the very least it needs
>>>>> to be guarded against.
>>>>
>>>> Do these devices ever require deferred probes?
>>>
>>> Yes, they very well might.  However, I'm happy with the limitation
>>> that only leaf devices can take advantage of probe deferral.
>>>
>>
>>
>> I have:
>>
>> I2C-Bus-A
>>   +--Mux-I2C (controlled by parent I2C-Bus-A)
>>       +---I2C-Bus-1
>>       |      +--GPIO-Expander-A
>>       |
>>       +---I2C-Bus-2
>>              +--GPIO-Expander-B
>>
>> These all have a parent/child relationship so no deferral is needed, so far
>> so good.
>>
>>
>> Then this:
>>
>> MDIO-Bus-A
>>    +---Mux-MDIO (controlled by GPIO-Expander-A)
>>          +---MDIO-Bus-1
>>          |
>>          +---MDIO-Bus-2
>>                +---PHY-1
>>                |
>>                +---PHY-2
>>
>> In this case the driver for Mux-MDIO needs to be deferred until *both*
>> MDIO-Bus-A's driver *and* GPIO-Expander-B's driver are loaded.  A perfect
>> use case for the patch.
>>
>> Would you consider Mux-MDIO to be a 'leaf device'?  If not, then I have real
>> problems with 'the limitation that only leaf devices can take advantage of
>> probe deferral'
>
> leaf device **at the time of its driver probe**.  :-)  After the
> device has all of its dependencies met, it can freely add child
> devices.  In your case, the child devices will get added by the
> Mux-MDIO device driver, so all is good.
>

Indeed.  Thanks for the confirmation.

David Daney
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