linux-kernel - Re: [git patches] libata updates, GPG signed (but see admin notes)

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Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1110311915160.31794@asgard.lang.hm>
Date:	Mon, 31 Oct 2011 19:17:41 -0700 (PDT)
From:	david@...g.hm
To:	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
cc:	"H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@...or.com>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@...senpartnership.com>,
	Jeff Garzik <jeff@...zik.org>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>,
	linux-ide@...r.kernel.org, LKML <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [git patches] libata updates, GPG signed (but see admin notes)

On Mon, 31 Oct 2011, Linus Torvalds wrote:

> On Mon, Oct 31, 2011 at 3:23 PM, H. Peter Anvin <hpa@...or.com> wrote:
>>
>> I use enigmail which is a Thunderbird plugin; it works quite well, but,
>> well, it requires Thunderbird.  I think many GUI MUAs have similar
>> plugins, but text MTAs might be worse, I don't know.
>
> I have never met a GUI MUA I like before google webmail. And the
> advantage of google webmail isn't so much the GUI MUA, as the fact
> that it doesn't suck like IMAP, and does the automatic folders and
> good handling of archives right.
>
> The reason I switched away from pine was that pine is fine (apart from
> the archival thing) if you have all your mail local. But "local mail"
> is painful when traveling, or when trying to interact with mail using
> a mobile phone etc.
>
> And IMAP mail in turn is totally useless both when traveling *and*
> when at home.

what IMAP servers have you used? I find that with a good IMAP server I can 
get away with _very_ little processing power in the client and get good 
performance (I still am using pine, but with a cyrus IMAP server)

there are a bunch of IMAP servers out there that are horrible (and even 
more IMAP clients that are really doing POP and storing everything 
locally, just using the IMAP protocol)

David Lang