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Message-Id: <E0D7D6BB-AB05-43DA-B679-BB2C3CA43E2C@suse.de>
Date:	Sun, 6 Nov 2011 09:30:51 -0800
From:	Alexander Graf <agraf@...e.de>
To:	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>
Cc:	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org List" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	"kvm@...r.kernel.org list" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel Developers <qemu-devel@...gnu.org>,
	Américo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels


On 06.11.2011, at 09:28, Pekka Enberg wrote:

> On Sun, Nov 6, 2011 at 7:15 PM, Alexander Graf <agraf@...e.de> wrote:
>>> The difference here is that although I feel Alex's script is a
>>> pointless project, I'm in no way opposed to merging it in the tree if
>>> people use it and it solves their problem. Some people seem to be
>>> violently opposed to merging the KVM tool and I'm having difficult
>>> time understanding why that is.
>> 
>> It's a matter of size and scope. Write a shell script that clones, builds and
>> executes KVM Tool and throw it in testing/tools/ and I'll happily ack it!
> 
> That's pretty much what git submodule would do, isn't it?
> 
> I really don't see the point in doing that. We want to be part of
> regular kernel history and release cycle. We want people to be able to
> see what's going on in our tree to keep us honest and we want to make
> the barrier of entry as low as possible.
> 
> It's not just about code, it's as much about culture and development process.

So you're saying that projects that are not living in the kernel tree aren't worthwhile? Or are you only trying to bump your oloh stats?

I mean, seriously, git makes it so easy to have a separate tree that it almost doesn't make sense not to have one. You're constantly working in separate trees yourself because every one of your branches is separate. Keeping in sync with the kernel release cycles (which I don't think makes any sense for you) should be easy enough too by merely releasing in sync with the kernel tree...


Alex

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