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Message-ID: <CAOJsxLEkYYoSrjjkCwiJ7MSdrUUQCf_Ewb8S6kFMBaEq5cNmQA@mail.gmail.com>
Date:	Mon, 7 Nov 2011 10:57:47 +0200
From:	Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>
To:	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com>
Cc:	Alexander Graf <agraf@...e.de>,
	"kvm@...r.kernel.org list" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
	qemu-devel Developers <qemu-devel@...gnu.org>,
	"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org List" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@...il.com>, Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>,
	Américo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] KVM: Add wrapper script around QEMU to test kernels

On 11/07/2011 09:45 AM, Pekka Enberg wrote:
>>> Specifications matter much more than working code.  Quirks are a fact
>>> of life but should always come second.
>>
>> To quote Linus:
>>
>>   And I have seen _lots_ of total crap work that was based on specs. It's
>> _the_ single worst way to write software, because it by definition means
>>   that the software was written to match theory, not reality.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 10:52 AM, Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@...hat.com> wrote:
> All generalizations are false.

What is that supposed to mean? You claimed we're "doing it wrong" and
I explained you why we are doing it the way we are.

Really, the way we do things in the KVM tool is not a bug, it's a feature.

                        Pekka
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