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Message-ID: <20111108102235.GA1241@elte.hu>
Date: Tue, 8 Nov 2011 11:22:35 +0100
From: Ingo Molnar <mingo@...e.hu>
To: Ted Ts'o <tytso@....edu>, Pekka Enberg <penberg@...helsinki.fi>,
"Frank Ch. Eigler" <fche@...hat.com>,
Vince Weaver <vince@...ter.net>,
Pekka Enberg <penberg@...nel.org>,
Anthony Liguori <anthony@...emonkey.ws>,
Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>,
"kvm@...r.kernel.org list" <kvm@...r.kernel.org>,
"linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org List" <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
qemu-devel Developers <qemu-devel@...gnu.org>,
Alexander Graf <agraf@...e.de>,
Blue Swirl <blauwirbel@...il.com>,
Américo Wang <xiyou.wangcong@...il.com>,
Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@...llo.nl>,
Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@...hat.com>
Subject: [F.A.Q.] perf ABI backwards and forwards compatibility
* Ted Ts'o <tytso@....edu> wrote:
> I don't believe there's ever been any guarantee that "perf test"
> from version N of the kernel will always work on a version N+M of
> the kernel. Perhaps I am wrong, though. If that is a guarantee
> that the perf developers are willing to stand behind, or have
> already made, I would love to be corrected and would be delighted
> to hear that in fact there is a stable, backwards compatible perf
> ABI.
We do even more than that, the perf ABI is fully backwards *and*
forwards compatible: you can run older perf on newer ABIs and newer
perf on older ABIs.
To show you how it works in practice, here's a random
cross-compatibility experiment: going back to the perf ABI of 2 years
ago. I used v2.6.32 which was just the second upstream kernel with
perf released in it.
So i took a fresh perf tool version and booted a vanilla v2.6.32
(x86, defconfig, PERF_COUNTERS=y) kernel:
$ uname -a
Linux mercury 2.6.32 #162137 SMP Tue Nov 8 10:55:37 CET 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
$ perf --version
perf version 3.1.1927.gceec2
$ perf top
Events: 2K cycles
61.68% [kernel] [k] sha_transform
16.09% [kernel] [k] mix_pool_bytes_extract
4.70% [kernel] [k] extract_buf
4.17% [kernel] [k] _spin_lock_irqsave
1.44% [kernel] [k] copy_user_generic_string
0.75% [kernel] [k] extract_entropy_user
0.37% [kernel] [k] acpi_pm_read
[the box is running a /dev/urandom stress-test as you can see.]
$ perf stat sleep 1
Performance counter stats for 'sleep 1':
0.766698 task-clock # 0.001 CPUs utilized
1 context-switches # 0.001 M/sec
0 CPU-migrations # 0.000 M/sec
177 page-faults # 0.231 M/sec
1,513,332 cycles # 1.974 GHz
<not supported> stalled-cycles-frontend
<not supported> stalled-cycles-backend
522,609 instructions # 0.35 insns per cycle
65,812 branches # 85.838 M/sec
7,762 branch-misses # 11.79% of all branches
1.076211168 seconds time elapsed
The two <not supported> events are not supported by the old kernel -
but the other events were and the tool picked them up without bailing
out.
Regular profiling:
$ perf record -a sleep 1
[ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ]
[ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.075 MB perf.data (~3279 samples) ]
perf report output:
$ perf report
Events: 1K cycles
64.45% dd [kernel.kallsyms] [k] sha_transform
19.39% dd [kernel.kallsyms] [k] mix_pool_bytes_extract
4.11% dd [kernel.kallsyms] [k] _spin_lock_irqsave
2.98% dd [kernel.kallsyms] [k] extract_buf
0.84% dd [kernel.kallsyms] [k] copy_user_generic_string
0.38% ssh libcrypto.so.0.9.8b [.] lh_insert
0.28% flush-8:0 [kernel.kallsyms] [k] block_write_full_page_endio
0.28% flush-8:0 [kernel.kallsyms] [k] generic_make_request
These examples show *PICTURE PERFECT* backwards ABI compatibility,
when using the bleeding perf tool on an ancient perf kernel (when it
wasnt even called 'perf events' but 'perf counters').
[ Note, i didnt go back to v2.6.31, the oldest upstream perf kernel,
because it's such a pain to build with recent binutils and recent
GCC ... v2.6.32 already needed a workaround and a couple of .config
tweaks to build and boot at all. ]
Then i built the ancient v2.6.32 perf tool from 2 years ago:
$ perf --version
perf version 0.0.2.PERF
and booted a fresh v3.1+ kernel:
$ uname -a
Linux mercury 3.1.0-tip+ #162138 SMP Tue Nov 8 11:14:26 CET 2011 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
$ perf stat ls
Performance counter stats for 'ls':
1.739193 task-clock-msecs # 0.069 CPUs
0 context-switches # 0.000 M/sec
0 CPU-migrations # 0.000 M/sec
250 page-faults # 0.144 M/sec
3477562 cycles # 1999.526 M/sec
1661460 instructions # 0.478 IPC
839826 cache-references # 482.883 M/sec
15742 cache-misses # 9.051 M/sec
0.025231139 seconds time elapsed
$ perf top
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
PerfTop: 38916 irqs/sec kernel:99.6% [100000 cycles], (all, 2 CPUs)
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
samples pcnt kernel function
_______ _____ _______________
41191.00 - 53.1% : sha_transform
20818.00 - 26.8% : mix_pool_bytes_extract
5481.00 - 7.1% : _raw_spin_lock_irqsave
2132.00 - 2.7% : extract_buf
1788.00 - 2.3% : copy_user_generic_string
801.00 - 1.0% : acpi_pm_read
446.00 - 0.6% : _raw_spin_unlock_irqrestore
284.00 - 0.4% : __memset
259.00 - 0.3% : extract_entropy_user
$ perf record -a -f sleep 1
[ perf record: Woken up 1 times to write data ]
[ perf record: Captured and wrote 0.034 MB perf.data (~1467 samples) ]
$ perf report
# Samples: 1023
#
# Overhead Command Shared Object Symbol
# ........ ............. ................................ ......
#
4.50% swapper [kernel] [k] acpi_pm_read
4.01% swapper [kernel] [k] delay_tsc
2.05% sudo /lib64/libcrypto.so.0.9.8b [.] 0x000000000a0549
1.96% perf [kernel] [k] vsnprintf
1.86% swapper [kernel] [k] test_clear_page_writeback
1.66% perf [kernel] [k] format_decode
1.56% sudo /lib64/ld-2.7.so [.] do_lookup_x
These examples show *PICTURE PERFECT* forwards ABI compatibility,
using the ancient perf tool on a bleeding edge kernel.
During the years we migrated across various transformations of the
subsystem and added tons of features, while maintaining the perf ABI.
I don't know where the whole ABI argument comes from - perf has
argumably one of the best and most compatible tooling ABIs within
Linux. I suspect back in the original perf flamewars people made up
their mind prematurely that it 'cannot' possibly work and never
changed their mind about it, regardless of reality proving them
wrong ;-)
And yes, the quality of the ABI and tooling cross-compatibility is
not accidental at all, it is fully intentional and we take great care
that it stays so. More than that we'll gladly take more 'perf test'
testcases, for obscure corner-cases that other tools might rely on.
I.e. we are willing to help external tooling to get their testcases
built into the kernel repo.
Note that such level of ABI support is arguably clearly overkill for
instrumentation: which by its very nature tends to migrate to the
newer versions - still we maintain it because in our opinion good,
usable tooling should have a good, extensible ABI.
Thanks,
Ingo
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