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Message-Id: <201111162247.39217.rjw@sisk.pl>
Date:	Wed, 16 Nov 2011 22:47:38 +0100
From:	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@...k.pl>
To:	Tejun Heo <tj@...nel.org>
Cc:	"Srivatsa S. Bhat" <srivatsa.bhat@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	pavel@....cz, lenb@...nel.org, ak@...ux.intel.com,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-pm@...r.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@...ck.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] PM/Memory-hotplug: Avoid task freezing failures

On Wednesday, November 16, 2011, Tejun Heo wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:54:04PM +0530, Srivatsa S. Bhat wrote:
> > Ok, so by "proper solution", are you referring to a totally different
> > method (than grabbing pm_mutex) to implement mutual exclusion between
> > subsystems and suspend/hibernation, something like the suspend blockers
> > stuff and friends?
> > Or are you hinting at just the existing code itself being fixed more
> > properly than what this patch does, to avoid having side effects like
> > you pointed out?
> 
> Oh, nothing fancy.  Just something w/o busy looping would be fine.
> The stinking thing is we don't have mutex_lock_freezable().  Lack of
> proper freezable interface seems to be a continuing problem and I'm
> not sure what the proper solution should be at this point.  Maybe we
> should promote freezable to a proper task state.  Maybe freezable
> kthread is a bad idea to begin with.

It generally is, but some of them really want to be freezable.

> Maybe instead of removing
> freezable_with_signal() we should make that default, that way,
> freezable can hitch on the pending signal handling (this creates
> another set of problems tho - ie. who's responsible for clearing
> TIF_SIGPENDING?).  I don't know.
> 
> Maybe just throw in msleep(10) there with fat ugly comment explaining
> why the hack is necessary?

Perhaps.

Thanks,
Rafael
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