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Date:	Mon, 28 Nov 2011 10:46:43 +0200
From:	Gleb Natapov <gleb@...hat.com>
To:	Liu ping fan <kernelfans@...il.com>
Cc:	Avi Kivity <avi@...hat.com>, aliguori@...ibm.com,
	kvm@...r.kernel.org, qemu-devel@...gnu.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, ryanh@...ibm.com, jan.kiszka@....de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/2] kvm: exit to userspace with reason
 KVM_EXIT_VCPU_DEAD

On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 03:16:01PM +0800, Liu ping fan wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 6:50 PM, Gleb Natapov <gleb@...hat.com> wrote:
> > On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 12:36:55PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
> >> On 11/27/2011 04:42 AM, Liu Ping Fan wrote:
> >> > From: Liu Ping Fan <pingfank@...ux.vnet.ibm.com>
> >> >
> >> > The vcpu can be safely released when
> >> > --1.guest tells us that the vcpu is not needed any longer.
> >> > --2.vcpu hits the last instruction _halt_
> >> >
> >> > If both of the conditions are satisfied, kvm exits to userspace
> >> > with the reason vcpu dead. So the user thread can exit safely.
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >> Seems to be completely unnecessary.  If you want to exit from the vcpu
> >> thread, send it a signal.
> >>
> Hi Avi and Gleb,
> 
> First, I wanted to make sure my assumption is right, so I can grab
> your meaning more clearly -:). Could you elaborate it for me, thanks.
> 
> I had thought that when a vcpu was being removed from guest, kvm must
> satisfy the following conditions to safely remove the vcpu:
> --1. The tasks on vcpu in GUEST  have already been migrated to other
> vcpus and ONLY idle_task left ---- The CPU_DEAD is the checkpoint.
> --2. We must wait the idle task to hit native_halt() in GUEST, till
> that time, this vcpu is no needed even by idle_task. In KVM, the vcpu
> thread will finally sit on "kvm_vcpu_block(vcpu);"
> We CAN NOT suppose the sequence of the two condition because they come
> from different threads.  Am I right?
> 
No, KVM can remove vcpu whenever it told to do so (may be not in the
middle of emulated io though). It is a guest responsibility to eject cpu
only when it is safe to do so from guest's point of view.

> And here comes my question,
> --1. I think the signal will make vcpu_run exit to user, but is it
> allow vcpu thread to finally call  "kernel/exit.c : void do_exit(long
> code)" in current code in kvm or in qemu?
Yes. Why not?

> --2. If we got CPU_DEAD event, and then send a signal to vcpu thread,
> could we ensure that we have already sit on "kvm_vcpu_block(vcpu);"
CPU_DEAD event is internal to a guest (one of them). KVM does not care
about it. And to remove vcpu it does not have to sit in kvm_vcpu_block().
And actually since signal kicks vcpu thread out from kernel into userspace
you can be sure it is not sitting in kvm_vcpu_block(). 

> 
> Thanks and regards,
> ping fan
> 
> > Also if guest "tells us that the vcpu is not needed any longer" (via
> > ACPI I presume) and vcpu actually doing something critical instead of
> > sitting in 1:hlt; jmp 1b loop then it is guest's problem if it stops
> > working after vcpu destruction.
> >
> 
> 
> > --
> >                        Gleb.
> >

--
			Gleb.
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