Message-ID: <1322630751.19120.222.camel@bling.home>
Date:	Tue, 29 Nov 2011 22:25:51 -0700
From:	Alex Williamson <alex.williamson@...hat.com>
To:	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@...nel.crashing.org>
Cc:	David Gibson <dwg@....ibm.com>, joerg.roedel@....com,
	dwmw2@...radead.org, iommu@...ts.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, chrisw@...hat.com, agraf@...e.de,
	scottwood@...escale.com, B08248@...escale.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] iommu: Add iommu_device_group callback and
 iommu_group sysfs entry

On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 15:51 +1100, Benjamin Herrenschmidt wrote:
> On Wed, 2011-11-30 at 13:42 +1100, David Gibson wrote:
> 
> > > +static ssize_t show_iommu_group(struct device *dev,
> > > +				struct device_attribute *attr, char *buf)
> > > +{
> > > +	unsigned int groupid;
> > > +
> > > +	if (iommu_device_group(dev, &groupid))
> > > +		return 0;
> > > +
> > > +	return sprintf(buf, "%u", groupid);
> > > +}
> > > +static DEVICE_ATTR(iommu_group, S_IRUGO, show_iommu_group, NULL);
> > 
> > Hrm.  Assuming the group is is an unsigned int seems dangerous to me.
> > More seriously, we really want these to be unique across the whole
> > system, but they're allocated by the iommu driver which can't
> > guarantee that if it's not the only one present.  Seems to me it would
> > be safer to have an actual iommu_group structure allocated for each
> > group, and use the pointer to it as the ID to hand around (with NULL
> > meaning "no iommu" / untranslated).  The structure could contain a
> > more human readable - or more relevant to platform documentation - ID
> > where appropriate.

Note that iommu drivers are registered per bus_type, so the unique pair
is {bus_type, groupid}, which seems sufficient for vfio.

> Don't forget that to keep sanity, we really want to expose the groups
> via sysfs (per-group dir with symlinks to the devices).
> 
> I'm working with Alexey on providing an in-kernel powerpc specific API
> to expose the PE stuff to whatever's going to interface to VFIO to
> create the groups, though we can eventually collapse that. The idea is
> that on non-PE capable brigdes (old style), I would make a single group
> per host bridge.

If your non-PE capable bridges aren't actually providing isolation, they
should return -ENODEV for the group_device() callback, then vfio will
ignore them.

> In addition, Alex, I noticed that you still have the domain stuff there,
> which is fine I suppose, we could make it a requirement on power that
> you only put a single group in a domain... but the API is still to put
> individual devices in a domain, not groups, and that somewhat sucks.
> 
> You could "fix" that by having some kind of ->domain_enable() or
> whatever that's used to "activate" the domain and verifies that it
> contains entire groups but that looks like a pointless way to complicate
> both the API and the implementation.

Right, groups are currently just a way to identify dependent sets, not a
unit of work.  We can also have group membership change dynamically
(hotplug slot behind a PCIe-to-PCI bridge), so there are cases where we
might need to formally attach/detach a group element to a domain at some
later point.  This really hasn't felt like a stumbling point for vfio,
at least on x86.  Thanks,

Alex

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