linux-kernel - Re: KSM: numa awareness sysfs knob

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Message-ID: <20111201101640.GA2156@dhcp-27-244.brq.redhat.com>
Date:	Thu, 1 Dec 2011 11:16:40 +0100
From:	Petr Holasek <pholasek@...hat.com>
To:	Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
Cc:	Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@...hat.com>,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
	Anton Arapov <anton@...hat.com>
Subject: Re: KSM: numa awareness sysfs knob

On Wed, 30 Nov 2011, Andrew Morton wrote:

> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2011 15:47:19 -0800
> From: Andrew Morton <akpm@...ux-foundation.org>
> To: Petr Holasek <pholasek@...hat.com>
> Cc: Hugh Dickins <hughd@...gle.com>, Andrea Arcangeli
>  <aarcange@...hat.com>, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, linux-mm@...ck.org,
>  Anton Arapov <anton@...hat.com>
> Subject: Re: [PATCH] [RFC] KSM: numa awareness sysfs knob
> 
> On Wed, 30 Nov 2011 11:37:26 +0100
> Petr Holasek <pholasek@...hat.com> wrote:
> 
> > Introduce a new sysfs knob /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/max_node_dist, whose
> > value will be used as the limitation for node distance of merged pages.
> > 
> 
> The changelog doesn't really describe why you think Linux needs this
> feature?  What's the reasoning?  Use cases?  What value does it provide?

Typical use-case could be a lot of KVM guests on NUMA machine and cpus from
more distant nodes would have significant increase of access latency to the
merged ksm page. I chose sysfs knob for higher scalability.

> 
> > index b392e49..b882140 100644
> > --- a/Documentation/vm/ksm.txt
> > +++ b/Documentation/vm/ksm.txt
> > @@ -58,6 +58,10 @@ sleep_millisecs  - how many milliseconds ksmd should sleep before next scan
> >                     e.g. "echo 20 > /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/sleep_millisecs"
> >                     Default: 20 (chosen for demonstration purposes)
> >  
> > +max_node_dist    - maximum node distance between two pages which could be
> > +                   merged.
> > +                   Default: 255 (without any limitations)
> 
> And this doesn't explain to our users why they might want to alter it,
> and what effects they would see from doing so.  Maybe that's obvious to
> them...

Now I can't figure out more extensive description of this feature, but we
could explain it deeply, of course.

> 
> >  run              - set 0 to stop ksmd from running but keep merged pages,
> >                     set 1 to run ksmd e.g. "echo 1 > /sys/kernel/mm/ksm/run",
> >                     set 2 to stop ksmd and unmerge all pages currently merged,
> >
> > ...
> >
> > +#ifdef CONFIG_NUMA
> > +static inline int node_dist(int from, int to)
> > +{
> > +	int dist = node_distance(from, to);
> > +
> > +	return dist == -1 ? 0 : dist;
> > +}
> 
> So I spent some time grubbing around trying to work out what a return
> value of -1 from node_distance() means, and wasn't successful.  Perhaps
> an explanatory comment here would have helped.

Yes, apologize, my mistake. I've overlooked that it should never return value
lower than LOCAL_DISTANCE even with CONFIG_NUMA unset. So those wrappers are
pointless and I'll remove them.

> 
> > +#else
> > +static inline int node_dist(int from, int to)
> > +{
> > +	return 0;
> > +}
> > +#endif
> >
> > ...
> >
> > +static ssize_t max_node_dist_store(struct kobject *kobj,
> > +				   struct kobj_attribute *attr,
> > +				   const char *buf, size_t count)
> > +{
> > +	int err;
> > +	unsigned long node_dist;
> > +
> > +	err = kstrtoul(buf, 10, &node_dist);
> > +	if (err || node_dist > 255)
> > +		return -EINVAL;
> 
> If kstrtoul() returned an errno we should propagate that back rather than
> overwriting it with -EINVAL.

Ok, I'll fix it.

> 
> > +	ksm_node_distance = node_dist;
> > +
> > +	return count;
> > +}
> >
> > ...
> >
> 
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