linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver because of worrying about possible misusage?

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Message-ID: <4ED91608.5020503@linuxtv.org>
Date:	Fri, 02 Dec 2011 19:16:40 +0100
From:	Andreas Oberritter <obi@...uxtv.org>
To:	Rémi Denis-Courmont <remi@...lab.net>
CC:	linux-media@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver because
 of worrying about possible misusage?

On 02.12.2011 18:49, Rémi Denis-Courmont wrote:
> Le jeudi 1 décembre 2011 21:59:56 HoP, vous avez écrit :
>>> Kernel code is GPLv2. You can use its code on a GPLv2 licensed library.
>>
>> I see. So if you think it is nice to get dvb-core, make a wrapper around
>> to get it usable in userspace and maintain totally same functionality
>> by myself then I say it is no go. If it looks for you like good idea
>> I must disagree. Code duplication?
> 
> Sure, some core code would be duplicated. That is not a big deal.
> 
> This proposal however has three big advantages:
> - Proprietary drivers are not enabled as the library would be GPL.
> - The virtual DVB device runs in the same process as the DVB application, 
> which saves context switching and memory copying.
> - It would be your project. You do not need to agree with Mauro ;-)
> 
>> Two maintaners? That is crazy idea man.
> 
> Someone would have to maintain the device driver anyway. I don't see much of a 
> difference on maintainance side.
> 
>>> And I can't see any advantage on yours ;) Putting something that belongs
>>> to userspace into kernelspace just because it is easier to re-use the
>>> existing code inside the kernel is not a good argument.
>>
>> It is only your POV that it should be in userspace.Also, LGPL drivers 
> 
> Except for backward compatiblity, this would actually belong in userspace. It 
> would be more efficient and easier to maintain as a userspace library than as 
> a kernel driver.

Maintaining the kernel module would be rather easy, because new
properties added to dvb_frontend would be handled transparently. The
implementation is quite simple. In contrast, implementing and then
maintaining all the users of a newly written userspace library would be
a nightmare in comparison.

> If you need backward compatibility, I am still inclined to believe that you 
> could write a CUSE frontend, so it does involve some extra work and looses the 
> performance benefit.

How would all this allow to use e.g. dvbsnoop or w_scan on a remote
tuner? Do you propose to add a dependency to this proposed library to
every application?

Furthermore, a GPLv2 library would artificially restrict its users, e.g.
you wouldn't be allowed to use it with gstreamer or just with anything
that isn't GPLv2, not even v3.

Regards,
Andreas
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