linux-kernel - Re: [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver because of worrying about possible misusage?

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Message-ID: <20111206141929.GE17731@opensource.wolfsonmicro.com>
Date:	Tue, 6 Dec 2011 14:19:29 +0000
From:	Mark Brown <broonie@...nsource.wolfsonmicro.com>
To:	Andreas Oberritter <obi@...uxtv.org>
Cc:	Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@...hat.com>,
	HoP <jpetrous@...il.com>,
	Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@...il.com>,
	Alan Cox <alan@...rguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-media@...r.kernel.org, linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] vtunerc: virtual DVB device - is it ok to NACK driver
 because of worrying about possible misusage?

On Tue, Dec 06, 2011 at 01:01:43PM +0100, Andreas Oberritter wrote:
> On 06.12.2011 12:21, Mark Brown wrote:
> > On Mon, Dec 05, 2011 at 09:41:38PM +0100, Andreas Oberritter wrote:

> >> Are you serious? Lower networking layers should be transparent to the
> >> upper layers. You don't implement VPN or say TCP in all of your
> >> applications, do you? These are just some more made-up arguments which
> >> don't have anything to do with the use cases I explained earlier.

> > For real time applications it does make a big difference - decisions
> > taken at the application level can greatly impact end application
> > performance.  For example with VoIP on a LAN you can get great audio

> Can you please explain how this relates to the topic we're discussing?

Your assertatation that applications should ignore the underlying
transport (which seems to be a big part of what you're saying) isn't
entirely in line with reality.
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