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Date:	Mon, 12 Dec 2011 09:55:57 +0100
From:	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@...radead.org>
To:	Ming Lei <tom.leiming@...il.com>
Cc:	gregkh@...e.de, akpm@...ux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org, ostrikov@...dia.com,
	adobriyan@...il.com, eric.dumazet@...il.com, mingo@...e.hu,
	Oliver Neukum <oneukum@...e.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 3/3] kref: Remove the memory barriers

On Mon, 2011-12-12 at 11:48 +0800, Ming Lei wrote:
> We can't assume any lock about kref usage, because kref is often used
> in lockless scenario. 

Then you're doing it wrong, seriously.

kref in lockless scenarios simply doesn't work, you need rcu (or another
means to stabilize storage) and atomic_inc_not_zero() as well as means
to validate your object after the lookup.


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