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Message-Id: <201112311659.48427.oliver@neukum.org>
Date:	Sat, 31 Dec 2011 16:59:48 +0100
From:	Oliver Neukum <oliver@...kum.org>
To:	Alan Stern <stern@...land.harvard.edu>
Cc:	Matthew Garrett <mjg@...hat.com>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@...ux-foundation.org>,
	Dave Jones <davej@...hat.com>,
	Linux Kernel <linux-kernel@...r.kernel.org>,
	Larry Finger <Larry.Finger@...inger.net>,
	Chaoming Li <chaoming_li@...lsil.com.cn>,
	"John W. Linville" <linville@...driver.com>,
	"Greg Kroah-Hartman" <gregkh@...e.de>,
	USB list <linux-usb@...r.kernel.org>,
	Linux Wireless List <linux-wireless@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: loading firmware while usermodehelper disabled.

Am Samstag, 31. Dezember 2011, 16:33:12 schrieb Alan Stern:

> Nothing has changed in the USB layer -- it has always been true that
> devices could be reset during a suspend/resume cycle.  This isn't a
> matter of how the stack is written or anything like that; some
> motherboards simply do not provide suspend power to their USB
> controllers.  Or the firmware reinitializes the controllers and
> attached devices during resume, forcing Linux's USB core to reset
> every device on the affected buses.
> 
> When it comes to suspend/resume, there are almost no guarantees.  :-(

We are definitely going through do_unbind_rebind(). But I don't think
it matters why we got there. We seem to be calling probe() too early.
And we need to guarantee that a driver can request firmware in probe()

So something has changed in the resume code path further up.

	Regards
		Oliver

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